banned substances

[tikrapt]

hey i was just checked out a link about banned substances in college sports. (it was out of curiosity, i DO NOT use any substances). just thought i'd throw that disclaimer in there. anyway...

i noticed that two widely used and easily available supplements are not included in there... creatine and glutamine. i specifically looked for those two because i know of people who use them. i never heard anything about glutamine but i could have sworn creatine is banned?

[Rhino]

No, creatine is not a controlled substance.

[VaultMarq26]

Have you ever eaten fish, tuna, or chicken, then you have ingested creatine.....it is a naturally occuring compound in the body and excess is just excreated....so it isn't banned.


Also, I have been told that it is a good idea to take a multi-vitamin daily.

[SlickVT]

No one is going to tell you, but this is the reason you think that.

Gatorade and the NCAA are pretty close friends.

Gatorade doesn't make creatine products, so the NCAA has no rules against creatine, they just make people think its bad for them. Its not.

I personally hold too much water weight when I take it so I stay away, but alot of people benefit from the recovery aide provided by creatine.

Glutamine is also for recovery.

Most products that are legal help aide in recovery.

[TreyDECA]

i can't imagine forgetting to take a daily vitamin or to have some protein after a workout. i feel like i've wasted my time in the weight room if i don't get something in me right after.

as for recovery, it's all in what you eat right after and within the hour of completing a tough workout.

[tikrapt]

haha i wasnt really trying to start a supplement post... but i guess i did. so what would you recommend to take for a pole vaulter. i would say creatine because you dont gain toooo much weight (will gain some at first). i take amino acid pills... guess thats a vitiman kinda...

anything that would regenerate/fix muscle? tore my hammy and would like to get that back to full. (and yes i know theres another thread about my hammy but ill throw that in here)

[ADTF Academy]

You don't even know what creatine does. the benefits from creatine supplementation are not big enough. Take a little extra rest and you will be replenished. Supplementation of creatine is not needed. Eat meat

[TreyDECA]

You don't even know what creatine does. the benefits from creatine supplementation are not big enough. Take a little extra rest and you will be replenished. Supplementation of creatine is not needed. Eat meat

if you say it like that, then you don't NEED to take anything. but science has shown in a countless number of studies that certain kinds of supplementation do increase our body's performance in certain areas. how far you take supplemtation is where people get into trouble. they can come to rely on said "extra energy" and not know what it feels like to be perfectly normal and not "jacked up" on the crap they put into their bodies.

i'm taking a graduate ergogenic aid class next semester. it's all on training and supplementation... very excite!!

[tikrapt]

You don't even know what creatine does. the benefits from creatine supplementation are not big enough. Take a little extra rest and you will be replenished. Supplementation of creatine is not needed. Eat meat

sorry wrong, creatine increases intense physical activity. for example a 100m run. creatine will give your muscles extra energy as you run those few extra 100m. after a few your muscles get tired because they lose oxygen and water. creatine helps retain water and therefore allows your muscles extra energy. another example would be lifting. creatine gives your muscles more energy to do a few extra reps/sets. i know my creatine, because i have looked into it. results vary however, some people have no effect from creatine and it is a waste of money, others show results. extra rest is not the same as creatine supplementation. creatine retains water, as i have said... which is why when you begin taking creatine you should expect to gain 5-10 pounds in the first week. after that, weight gains are minimal but the first initial gain is big (and your muscles will get bigger, assuming you are one of the people that it works for) creatine has no proven negatives. it may cause kidney problems, but only if taken improperly. this however, is not a proven fact. creatine may cause muscle cramps, so a little more stretching is a good idea when on creatine supplementation. if you are on creatine, drink lots of water! you should drink atleast 64 oz. of straight water a day.

anything else you wanna test me on???

[LHSpolevault]

You don't even know what creatine does. the benefits from creatine supplementation are not big enough. Take a little extra rest and you will be replenished. Supplementation of creatine is not needed. Eat meat

sorry wrong, creatine increases intense physical activity. for example a 100m run. creatine will give your muscles extra energy as you run those few extra 100m. after a few your muscles get tired because they lose oxygen and water. creatine helps retain water and therefore allows your muscles extra energy. another example would be lifting. creatine gives your muscles more energy to do a few extra reps/sets. i know my creatine, because i have looked into it. results vary however, some people have no effect from creatine and it is a waste of money, others show results. extra rest is not the same as creatine supplementation. creatine retains water, as i have said... which is why when you begin taking creatine you should expect to gain 5-10 pounds in the first week. after that, weight gains are minimal but the first initial gain is big (and your muscles will get bigger, assuming you are one of the people that it works for) creatine has no proven negatives. it may cause kidney problems, but only if taken improperly. this however, is not a proven fact. creatine may cause muscle cramps, so a little more stretching is a good idea when on creatine supplementation. if you are on creatine, drink lots of water! you should drink atleast 64 oz. of straight water a day.

anything else you wanna test me on???

the weight gain within the first period of usage is water weight. if you're training is pretty intense, you'll lose the water and not show much gain in weight.. maybe 1lb or so (which might be lean). the thing is with people who sprint, cramping is more likely to occur because of the extra amounts of water you're putting in your body. so it's not the creatine that causes the muscles cramps... it's the excess amount of water you're putting into you that is.

the kidney problems may come with long-term usage without cycling.

if you're polevaulting... and you put on that kind of weight, by water, in a week... that's not gonna be too great for you carrying around the extra load.

[rainbowgirl28]

It's like many things in this category... creatine is fine and good for some people if they know what they are doing. If you don't know what you are doing you are just going to wind up hurting yourself.

[EIUvltr]

Ugh, okay here goes, this is what creatine does.

There are several energy pathways in your body, the most kickass of which is the ATP-CP system (distance runners may disagree, but who cares about them).

ATP has 3 phosphate groups and needs to lose one of them to give off energy. So now you have all this ADP wandering around like hookers without their pimp. Luckily you've been supplementing with CP (creatine phosphate (The Pimp supplement (see where I'm going with this?))) So the creatine phosphate is happy to give up a phosphate group so the ADP can become ATP again, and can give off more energy (turn tricks). Basically the more CP you have, the longer you can sustain intense oxygen-independent physical activity. That is why people who take creatine say they feel like after an hour of working out, they still have a lot of energy.