WHAT ARE THE TOP 5 STATES THAT PRODUCE GOOD VAULTERS

[breaker]

Oh yeah, lets not forget breaker and toki these girls threatened to beat me with an ugly stick if i didn't mention them !

lies!

[vaulter894]

definitely Texas and California for both, NY for girls, and I seem to have met a handful of very good vaulters from NJ

[Carolina Extreme]

Let look at per capita...

I like per capita. As a small state, about 4mil people, South Carolina would rank in the top few states for vaulters. Last year we had 5 at 15'+ and one 16'+. Compared to states like Texas (22mil?) and California (34mil?) it makes for a better comparison. Not a perfect way, but more apple to apple. The best way would be if you can find out the number of vaulters statewide vs how many are 15' 16' and 17' in each state for a ratio. We did it a couple of years ago on this website (by population) and SC, Oregon and Washington were the top three states for guys. I think Oregon or Wash was first at that time, for that year.

This year for girls,... No question about whos on top.... New York.

[Skyin' Brian]

oh, man, i did a project on this for an econometrics class i ran a regression with the dependent variable being male high school vaulters ranked in the top 100 in the nation for the year by dyestat. i think i collected data from the past 4 or 5 years about ranked vaulters per capita, income per capita, participation rates in sports(overall sports participation and also the relative popularity of track) i also took weather into account by taking the average temperature of the state capital from march through may as well as average rainfall. these were special interest variables just to see if weather played a role in pole vault performance. i actually think i did find that temperature did have a positive correlation with the number of top 100 vaulters per capita in a state. as the average temperature of the state increased the # of ranked vaulters increased at at decreasing rate. though this finding wasnt all that significant in all of my regressions, just a couple of them.

i wanted to add variables for coaching, but didnt get around to it it probably would have included something like # of available camps per capita or something. i cant remember what state had the best vaulters holding all of my variables constant, but i dont think it was texas and actually i think i lost my data somewhere, but it was kind of a fun project

[cdmilton]

oh, man, i did a project on this for an econometrics class i ran a regression with the dependent variable being male high school vaulters ranked in the top 100 in the nation for the year by dyestat. i think i collected data from the past 4 or 5 years about ranked vaulters per capita, income per capita, participation rates in sports(overall sports participation and also the relative popularity of track) i also took weather into account by taking the average temperature of the state capital from march through may as well as average rainfall. these were special interest variables just to see if weather played a role in pole vault performance. i actually think i did find that temperature did have a positive correlation with the number of top 100 vaulters per capita in a state. as the average temperature of the state increased the # of ranked vaulters increased at at decreasing rate. though this finding wasnt all that significant in all of my regressions, just a couple of them.

i wanted to add variables for coaching, but didnt get around to it it probably would have included something like # of available camps per capita or something. i cant remember what state had the best vaulters holding all of my variables constant, but i dont think it was texas and actually i think i lost my data somewhere, but it was kind of a fun project

Sounds like a good project. Care to post the actual results?

What about states that have an indoor season or states that start earlier than say March?

[Skyin' Brian]

oh, man, i did a project on this for an econometrics class i ran a regression with the dependent variable being male high school vaulters ranked in the top 100 in the nation for the year by dyestat. i think i collected data from the past 4 or 5 years about ranked vaulters per capita, income per capita, participation rates in sports(overall sports participation and also the relative popularity of track) i also took weather into account by taking the average temperature of the state capital from march through may as well as average rainfall. these were special interest variables just to see if weather played a role in pole vault performance. i actually think i did find that temperature did have a positive correlation with the number of top 100 vaulters per capita in a state. as the average temperature of the state increased the # of ranked vaulters increased at at decreasing rate. though this finding wasnt all that significant in all of my regressions, just a couple of them.

i wanted to add variables for coaching, but didnt get around to it it probably would have included something like # of available camps per capita or something. i cant remember what state had the best vaulters holding all of my variables constant, but i dont think it was texas and actually i think i lost my data somewhere, but it was kind of a fun project

Sounds like a good project. Care to post the actual results?

What about states that have an indoor season or states that start earlier than say March?

i lost my files for it in my computer, but i may have a hard copy around someplace.

i pretty much didnt look at indoors for simplicity's sake and because i had to gather a lot of data as it was. i could have looked up what each high association has as the length of their season, but i decided not to bother with that and just assumed that most of the nations productive vaulting would take place from march-may

[Mecham]

Boys:

1 TX - ~30 over 17', at least 30 over 15' each year
2 CA
3 WA
4 OR
5 OK - nobody lives in OK and they've still got 3 or 4 over 17'6" all-time

Washington is probably like the best ever... Its pretty sweet. I mean, its not cause i live there or anything.

[rainbowgirl28]

Boys:

1 TX - ~30 over 17', at least 30 over 15' each year
2 CA
3 WA
4 OR
5 OK - nobody lives in OK and they've still got 3 or 4 over 17'6" all-time

Washington is probably like the best ever... Its pretty sweet. I mean, its not cause i live there or anything.

I think Washington has the single most impressive mark ever. 17-4.75 by Casey Carrigan in 1969 is way more impressive than Skipper jumping 18-3 in 2003. Carrigan made the Olympic team while he was still in high school

[Scott Go Pre]

I think Washington has the single most impressive mark ever. 17-4.75 by Casey Carrigan in 1969 is way more impressive than Skipper jumping 18-3 in 2003. Carrigan made the Olympic team while he was still in high school

No that is impressive!

[Carolina Extreme]

I think Washington has the single most impressive mark ever. 17-4.75 by Casey Carrigan in 1969 is way more impressive than Skipper jumping 18-3 in 2003. Carrigan made the Olympic team while he was still in high school

DITTO That one!

[KYLE ELLIS]

Dont know about wa and or? They have both had 1 standout for sure in hs. heres my pick

1-tx
2-ca
2-ok
4-or
5-wa

Oklahoma lists- Joe dial 1st 18 footer in hs ever, tim mcmicheal (16'6 hs and 1989 ncaa champ), jeff bray 17'7, josh dial 17'6, kevin opolka 17'1, Mike Hines 17'0, mike westlund (16'6 hs and 18 ft college), scott martin (16'6 hs and 17'7 as freshman at ou) austin landreth (16 hs 17'7 college) Eric Boxley (16'6 hs and 18ft in college) etc etc........ many more over 16 ft

[Skyin' Brian]

i think looking at absolute standouts as in 17'+ high school is a poor indication in what state "produces" good vaulters. no state produces vaulters of that level, any state can get "lucky" and have an 18' jumper(the state is lucky, not the vaulter ).

perhaps a better measure would be how many 15' or even 14' vaulters it produces per capita or maybe 15 or 14' vaulters per male participant in track.

i also believe that it is still too early in the game to think about what state produces best females, but that will come soon though.

things that matter for a state:

popularity of track: if track is popular, more of the better athletes will become potential vaulters

population: this is why we should consider every thing per capita

school district size might matter: a larger district, more specialization in sports therefore people suited to pole vault will be drawn to vault. also more resources=more money= more poles.

weather: draw your own conclusions

coaching: so hard to quantify, but probably in influenced by the popularity of track as well as the states history of vaulting

many other things matter as well, but just focusing on a couple of amazing performances kind of overlooks the question