Scholarships

mjaubbs40 · Unread postby **mjaubbs40** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:52 pm

A few questions about college PV scholarships (full or partial). I know answers will vary depending on the school, but in general:

1. what heights do colleges look at for male & female scholarships (full or partial)?

2. When do these heights need to be jumped before it's too late? (Jr year, Sr year, indoors/outdoors)?

3. How many Division 1 track & field programs are actually looking to give full or partial PV scholarships?

4. If partial scholarship, what percentage are we talking about?

(Didn't know if I should post this here in the college forum or in HS)

saraf · Unread postby **saraf** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:27 pm

anone one can correct me but i would say...

1. what heights do colleges look at for male & female scholarships (full or partial)? anone one can correct me but i would say 16'

2. When do these heights need to be jumped before it's too late? (Jr year, Sr year, indoors/outdoors)? the earlier the better

3. How many Division 1 track & field programs are actually looking to give full or partial PV scholarships? not very many, none for full rides

4. If partial scholarship, what percentage are we talking about? be happy with getting just books and see what happenes

if you are going to school and wanted an athletic schlorship you have picked the wrong sport

Barto · Unread postby **Barto** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:33 pm

The answers will vary greatly depending on the schools you are looking at, but generally and I mean VERY GENERALLY.......

Schools care what you jump during your senior year. They are not particularly concerned with Soph or Jr marks unless they are very very good and then you were injured Sr year.

Walkons
Males - 14'
Females - 10'

For a school to invest time in developing an athlete they need to have figured out how to jump this high by themselves. If they have not, then they probably are not a good enough athlete to compete in college.

Partial Scholarship 10%-50%
Males - 15'
Females - 11'

The amount of scholarship depends on many factors: How much scholarship does the school have available that year? How much coaching has this kid had in high school? What type of raw athletic ability does this kid posess?

Significant Scholarship 50%-100%
Males - 16'
Females - 12'
The main determining factor at this point is, "How good will this kid be?" All-American = >80%
National Qualifier = >70%
Regional Qualifier = >60%
Conference Placer = >50%

I hope this helps.

Unread postby **rainbowgirl28** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:38 pm

Unread postby **rainbowgirl28** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:44 pm

mjaubbs40 wrote:A few questions about college PV scholarships (full or partial). I know answers will vary depending on the school, but in general:

1. what heights do colleges look at for male & female scholarships (full or partial)?

2. When do these heights need to be jumped before it's too late? (Jr year, Sr year, indoors/outdoors)?

3. How many Division 1 track & field programs are actually looking to give full or partial PV scholarships?

4. If partial scholarship, what percentage are we talking about?

(Didn't know if I should post this here in the college forum or in HS)

1. Barto did a good job giving generalities. Just remember it varies a TON from school to school and based on what they already have and what they are graduating.

2. I would say junior year is really important, but they will expect you to improve senior year. If you jump something decent indoors of senior year that helps, but if you jump something big in the summer after your senior year, by that point most of the money has been given away.

3. Check out the team links here: http://www.polevaultpower.com/college/ to get started.

Remember that not every school is fully funded. A guys' team can have at most 12.5 scholarships, but there are many that don't even get that many. There are many schools (even DI) that don't have the facilities for the pole vault.

4. It's tough to get more than 50% as a vaulter, unless you are able to score at conference in other events as well. To get more than 50% at most schools I'd say you have to be ranked fairly high on Dyestat.

mjaubbs40 · Unread postby **mjaubbs40** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:50 pm

rainbowgirl28 Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject:

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Thanks Becca, looks like I have some reading to do. Do I dare ask what schools have a history of giving scholarships before I start reading?

achtungpv · Unread postby **achtungpv** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 4:53 pm

No (male) vaulter should even dream of a full ride to a major university. There's maybe 10 vaulters nationwide at Big 12, Pac-10, etc. size schools on a full-ride. For example, Eric Eshbach got 80% at Nebraska with an 18-2 1/4 HS PR.

Athletic scholarships are only for one year and I've seen All-Americans get their money reduced for the following year. If you need the money go for grants or academic scholarships and go to the college you want to attend.

Unread postby **rainbowgirl28** » Tue Oct 31, 2006 5:47 pm

mjaubbs40 wrote:Thanks Becca, looks like I have some reading to do. Do I dare ask what schools have a history of giving scholarships before I start reading?

http://www.polevaultpower.com/college/ Click on the two years I have for incoming freshmen and transfers. They are not all on scholarship, but that will give you an idea of where vaulters are going.

In the end you have to talk to the coach.

skyhigh0024 · Unread postby **skyhigh0024** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 9:02 pm

Would coaches be more hesitant to give athletes scholarships to JC vaulters? Ive always wondered if there was a stigma for the JC vaulter.

bjvando · Unread postby **bjvando** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:31 pm

there is defenitely a higher standard for JC transfers.

IF you can see potential for developing an incoming freshman, you're defenitely more prone to look at that younger athlete than a jc transfer who can only provide for 2 years...

Barto · Unread postby **Barto** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 12:36 am

bjvando wrote:there is defenitely a higher standard for JC transfers.

IF you can see potential for developing an incoming freshman, you're defenitely more prone to look at that younger athlete than a jc transfer who can only provide for 2 years...

I actually disagree. A JC kid has already proven themselves in the classroom and on the field. As long as they are jumping what a college soph should be (>16') I am interested.

Unread postby **rainbowgirl28** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 2:30 am

skyhigh0024 wrote:Would coaches be more hesitant to give athletes scholarships to JC vaulters? Ive always wondered if there was a stigma for the JC vaulter.

Not necessarily. Sometimes a coach might have a bunch of young vaulters, and you need to pick up a vaulter with more experience and less time left on the clock. It's best to have your vaulters spread out as far as age goes.

As a JC transfer you are held to a higher standard as far as heights go. They are looking less at potential and more at what you can actually do.

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