I need a crash course on box installation

[rainbowgirl28]

I've never been involved in a box installation before, I need someone to educate me about what goes on.

The HS I am coaching at now has this old yellow Stackhouse fiberglass box. A year or two ago they had their track redone. They did the PV box area, but it doesn't fit the Stackhouse box. They did not permanently affix the yellow box... it was sitting in one of the storage areas until today. But it doesn't fit:

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OBVIOUS PROBLEM. I showed this picture to my non-pole vaulting husband who immediately identified that there was a giant lip on the box. Lip issues aside, there is also the issue of it raining a lot out here, and the water gets under the yellow box and makes it float.

So we pulled the yellow box out and just vaulted with whatever is underneath, I'll call it the non-box. Unfortunately, I did not get a picture, but I will take one tomorrow. It's not a metal box, but it's not just concrete either, maybe some kind of plasticky material? It's a little deeper than a normal box, maybe 9 or 10 inches deep, but otherwise the dimensions seem to be about normal. I know it's not a BOX because there is a slight gap in some places where the corners meet.

The non-box sits perfectly flush with the runway. So I am pretty sure that even if we got a normal metal box, there would at least be a small lip.

Anyway, I am contacting the AD to see if he can dig up the paperwork on the track installation so I can find out more about how they did this installation.


Anyway, I am having a hard time articulating what I am trying to say, so just reply what you know about box installations, maybe it will help. Or you can just comment and say, "man, that's some lip!"

[73-vaulter]

The answer to your question is longer then I want to type. Call me and I will help you.

[rainbowgirl28]

Update: The former AD says that it should just be a regular aluminum box in there (the non-box), so we should be fine just to use that. I will try and get a picture today.

[KirkB]

Update: The former AD says that it should just be a regular aluminum box in there (the non-box), so we should be fine just to use that. I will try and get a picture today.

But you said the non-box was 9-10" deep. Better get out your ruler!

Kirk

[rainbowgirl28]

I happened to get a rule book today, so I measured the box and it all seems up to par. The depth was a little confusing because of the angles, and because there are still a few inches of water in the bottom, I need to get a smaller cup out there for draining the dregs.

The main reason I was so confused is that the sides of the box are not welded to the bottom of the box. There is a small gap. I don't think they could have purchased this box and installed it, the track installation people must have just constructed it themselves out of 4 pieces of metal and stuck it in there. I took some pictures and will try to post them in a few.

[vaultmd]

Small brooms outperform cups . . .

[baggettpv]

Becca, I can drive up and take a look in a couple of weekends. Nice Sunday drive. Also, to install a new box would take about an hour "IF" the old one is out and the concrete/blacktop surrounding material is gone. We would form up a for new concrete box supporting materials and install the new box in new concrete. All at the proper depth/angle and grade.

Rick Baggett
Carpentry instructor/ pole vault coach

[rainbowgirl28]

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We're not using that fiberglass thing anymore. Here is a picture of where the side of the box attaches the the bottom. I think I have only ever seen boxes that were like one piece of metal that was folded up and welded. This box is 4 separate pieces that is only welded at little spots. But it seems like everything is in there securely, so I don't _think_ it's going to cause any problems.

[KirkB]

I'm having trouble visualising your .jpg. Could you tell me what angle you took the pic from, and what I'm seeing? Obviously, it's not a pic of the entire box.

Kirk

[rainbowgirl28]

I'm having trouble visualising your .jpg. Could you tell me what angle you took the pic from, and what I'm seeing? Obviously, it's not a pic of the entire box.

Kirk

The bottom of box is to the right (but you can't see it). So it's a picture of where the side of the box meets the bottom.

[master]

Small brooms outperform cups . . .

I agree. That is the best and quickest. Just sweep it out in the direction of the runway.

- master