pole flex

A forum to discuss everything to do with pole vaulting equipment: poles, pits, spikes, etc.

Moderator: Barto

PV ers Dad
PV Beginner
Posts: 23
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:50 pm

pole flex

Unread postby PV ers Dad » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:09 am

Will the flex change as the pole gets older? more used? or change in temperature?

User avatar
Bruce Caldwell
PV Enthusiast
Posts: 1783
Joined: Thu Feb 27, 2003 3:19 pm
Expertise: It is all about Pole Vaulting. I even catch the competitors poles!
Lifetime Best: 15'8"
Favorite Vaulter: Kjell Issakson, Jan Johnson
Location: DFW TEXAS
Contact:

YES it can due to 2 things

Unread postby Bruce Caldwell » Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:31 am

A pole flex can only change when it loses material.
1. by cutting th epole at the butt
2. Poles in the past were made with a filament thread running the hoop wrap of the pole and this was applied with a resin on the mandrel. If the pole was flexed too far this resin crackled and was deposited at the butt of the pole. Look and see if your pole does this if so the flex can be a bigger number and the pole will be softer to bend.

prsport3
PV Beginner
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Sun City, AZ
Contact:

Pole Can Loose Flex

Unread postby prsport3 » Tue Jan 30, 2007 10:34 pm

I seen a 460 20.0 to to a 20.5 when bent to 90 degrees once and then bent 99 more time and end up a 21.0. That's a 5 pound loss in stiffness at that length.

Other data support the same conclusions when testing new poles then the same pole at a later date.
Eddie Seese
P. O. Box 544
Youngtown, AZ 85363-0544
(623) 972 4666

PV ers Dad
PV Beginner
Posts: 23
Joined: Sat Oct 21, 2006 11:50 pm

Unread postby PV ers Dad » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:16 pm

11.5' 130 59
12' 130 59

These poles have the same fex numbers and weight will they both feel the same except for the lenght?



how about these poles 11.5 130 59 and 11.5 140 59

prsport3
PV Beginner
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Sun City, AZ
Contact:

Flex Number don't track

Unread postby prsport3 » Wed Jan 31, 2007 10:27 pm

Flex number are only for a lenght. the 12 ' pole is 10 pounds stiffer at the same grip as the 11' 5" pole.
Eddie Seese

P. O. Box 544

Youngtown, AZ 85363-0544

(623) 972 4666

User avatar
2-15-46
PV Pro
Posts: 449
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:02 pm
Location: ohio

Unread postby 2-15-46 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:44 am

getting back to the same old question...at what point of the pole do you measure from??? 1 inch from the bottem and 1 inch from the top? or one foot from the bottom and the highest gripping point from the top??
Bob

User avatar
Rhino
PV Pro
Posts: 271
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2003 4:36 pm
Location: Florida

Unread postby Rhino » Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:16 am

2-15-46 wrote:getting back to the same old question...at what point of the pole do you measure from??? 1 inch from the bottem and 1 inch from the top? or one foot from the bottom and the highest gripping point from the top??

What are you talking about?

User avatar
2-15-46
PV Pro
Posts: 449
Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:02 pm
Location: ohio

Unread postby 2-15-46 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:19 am

how does one measure the change in flex?
Bob

prsport3
PV Beginner
Posts: 19
Joined: Sun Dec 07, 2003 3:31 pm
Location: Sun City, AZ
Contact:

Measuring Change in Flex

Unread postby prsport3 » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:49 am

Well, all the manufactures do it differently but for your own records try this. You can also use this to get relative stiffness between poles of different lenghts by using the same suspension points.

Suspend the pole 6" from the botton and 12" from the top. Hang a 50 # weight in the center of those suspension points and measure the deflection in cm. Do this in the shade.
Eddie Seese

P. O. Box 544

Youngtown, AZ 85363-0544

(623) 972 4666


Return to “Pole Vault - Equipment”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 88 guests