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Unread postby crazygeminirider » Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:23 pm

hey, first video ive posted. so here it is.

second dual meet of the season, 13'6" finish. all the jumps are explained on the link.
http://www.treemo.com/users/tblashford/channel/item/61939/

thanks for all advice!

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:26 pm

Well there will be no tearing from me, lol. Your jumps looked great, and i can tell you are ready to go really high! It probably doesnt feel like it, but the biggest thing i see you can work on is getting connected with the pole. You arent coming back quite far enough to keep your legs from flagging out when the pole recoils. Focus on keeping your hips moving up, and keep your hands pressing up as you swing. Swing your feet to the tip of the pole, with your top hand between your feet, and straighten your body out. I think you may be seeing that you have a certain hieght cleared, so you arent coming back as far as you could. If you stay connected with the pole all the way to the top, you will jump 15'6. good luck!
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Unread postby Cooleo111 » Sun Apr 15, 2007 11:59 pm

I'd say the same thing. Once you get your feet up you just kind of sit and turn, you don't let your feet get all the way back, and then your hips don't get over your shoulders like they need to. Swing back farther on the pole and you will be able to drop your shoulders a lot better and really get some height! Good jumps though, it'll be a good year for Jersey! ;)

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Unread postby crazygeminirider » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:13 am

Thanks for the tips!

So, for getting/keeping my feet back longer.. should i focus on that during the time when i'm straightening out?... or more focus on keeping my legs back behind the pole as i'm in the L-position?..or both? haha

Thanks again for all the advice!

And yea, NJ should be pretty interesting come SMOC. I saw a video of a Rick something jumping 14'6" down in south jersey. I know Stripe, Steeg, and Lazor can all make some big jumps!

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Mon Apr 16, 2007 11:14 pm

Think about this....
The harder you swing, the easier it will be to get in line with the pole. notice i didnt say inverted, because a good vaulter is never actually inverted. I learned that just a few months ago, but rather they are in line with the pole. Unless the standards are on 0, there is no reason to truly be completely inverted. But anyway, back to what i was saying...
You have enough swing to get in line with the pole right now, and all you need to focus on doing is keep your energy moving past your swing. Right now your swing is strong, and ads a ton of energy, but your hips stop soon after your legs are inverted. Instead, keep the energy you just generated with your long and fast swing, and keep your hips moving up the pole. Your hips will keep moving until your body is straight, and your top hand will be right in the baby makers. From there, the pole should already be recoiling, and all you need to do is focus on keeping your (flexed) ankles and feet in line with the top of the pole, keep the pressure on that sucker, and you will fly.

I hope that helps explain the whole "staying back longer" idea. Its really more about keeping your energy moving than it is "getting inverted". good luck!
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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Tue Apr 17, 2007 6:11 pm

Yup, he looks pretty connected with the pole. Idk, maybe im wrong, its just something my coach has told me, you come back ALMOST to vertical, basically so that your body is in line with the pole. Now if the pole is shooting you literally STRAIGHT into the air, then you would be fully inverted. However if your standards are anywhere normal (40-80) then you would be coming back and getting in line with the pole, which is not inverted, therefore you would never have to be fully inverted. It would be a waste of energy.
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Unread postby AVC Coach » Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:48 am

Wow, you're confusing me. My comment about inversion was this: Often times complete inversion is not required to have a good vault. As long as the hips keep moving upward with no pause, you're moving in the right direction. Each individual vault, depending on the pole size and pole speed, will determine whether or not complete inversion is required. Obviously, in a perfect scenario, you want to get as connected as possible on the stiffest pole that will allow you to get there with little or no energy loss. This doesn't happen very often, although we should be striving for it.

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Unread postby BethelPV » Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:46 am

I would say a great vaulter does get inverted, but never completely perpendicular to the ground... Even when you watch Bubka's jumps he got inline wih his pole, but never completely perpendicular to the ground, or completely verticle.

Same this is the same with Tarasov, Markov, Walker, Toby, and Mack... the only vaulter I have seen come close is Lobinger...

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:14 pm

Ah i see, thanks for the clarification.
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