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Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sun Mar 13, 2016 11:10 pm

I'm sure they will be out in a day or two, but here are my guesses...

From the indoor 2016 list...
1 5.03 WR Jenn Suhr USA - Qualified
2 4.95 Sandi Morris USA - Qualified
3 4.90 NR Ekateríni Stefanídi GRE - Confirmed
x 4.90 Demi Payne USA Only two per country
4 4.81 NR Nikoléta Kiriakopoúlou GRE - I'm pretty sure I saw her yesterday...
x 4.75 Anzhelika Sidorova RUS Suspended Federation
5 4.75 =NR Nicole Büchler SUI - Confirmed
x 4.71A Mary Saxer Only two per country
x 4.71 WJR NR Wilma Murto FIN Stated she would not be competing
6 4.71 Fabiana Murer BRA - Confirmed
Outdoor 2016...
7 4.80 AR Eliza McCartney NZL - Confirmed
8 4.77 AR Alana Boyd AUS - Confirmed
Qualifying marks from 2015...
x 4.91 AR Yarisley Silva CUB - Not competing due to a serious injury to her fiance
x 4.75 Silke Spiegelburg GER - Withdrew due to illness
9 4.72 Jiřina Ptáčníková CZE - Confirmed
x 4.71 NR Marion Fiack FRA - Not selected by country, only jumped 4.38i this year and last jumped in January so she is probably hurt or not fit.

Next on the list...
x 4.70 AR Li Ling CHN - Not qualified, but would be first invited if she wants to go... but the fact she jumped 4.70 instead of 4.71 makes me think she is not interested?
x 4.70 Lisa Ryzih GER - Looks like she has ended her indoor season
x 4.70 NR NUR Angelica Bengtsson SWE - Stated that she has ended her indoor season
x 4.70 Holly Bradshaw GBR - Hasn't been competing indoors

Working down the indoor 2016 list a little further... another Russian, more Americans, a Finnish girl who has also stated she was not interested, Romana Maláčová from the Czech Republic maybe? Going back to the 2015 list... Germans Strutz jumped 4.65 outdoors, but has only jumped 4.51 indoors this year and Bauer jumped 4.65 last year but has not competed indoors this year, neither of them seem likely...


The bulls*** thing is that the women's pole vault was never given a Wild Card opportunity like some of the other events had. If Sandi, Demi or Jenn had won a wild card, all three of them would be competing. It looks like the IAAF is going to dig ridiculously deep to fill a field of 12... CLEARLY the best solution is to invite Demi to the field, call it a wild card spot like other events are getting. There are no other athletes being bumped out in this event by the limit of 2 per country... :idea:

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 3:19 am

Well the men will have no trouble filling the field, let's see what we have here... I'm assuming the question mark guys are going, just couldn't find anything saying for sure.

Standard: 5.77
2016 indoors
1 6.03 Renaud Lavillenie FRA - Confirmed
2 6.00A =AR Shawn Barber CAN - Confirmed. Wild card winner, but irrelevant since he is the only Canadian.
3 5.93 AR Thiago Braz BRA - Confirmed
4 5.90 Sam Kendricks USA - Confirmed
x 5.84 Raphael Holzdeppe GER - Not competing due to injury
5 5.84 NR Konstadínos Filippídis GRE ??
x 5.84 Paweł Wojciechowski POL - Only 2 per country
6 5.81 NR Xue Changrui CHN ??
x 5.80 Timur Morgunov RUS - Suspended federation
7 5.77A NR Seito Yamamoto JPN ??
x 5.77 Kévin Menaldo FRA - Only 2 per country
8 5.77 Carlo Paech GER - Confirmed
9 5.77 Jérôme Clavier FRA - Confirmed
10 5.77 Robert Sobera POL - Confirmed
11 5.77 Piotr Lisek POL - Confirmed
12 5.77A Mike Arnold USA - Confirmed
13 5.77 Jan Kudlička CZE - Confirmed
2015 outdoors
14 5.82 NR Michal Balner CZE - Confirmed
15 5.81 Augusto Dutra BRA - Confirmed
5.80 Jake Blankenship USA - Only 2 per country
2015 indoors
x 5.85 Aleksandr Gripich RUS - Suspended Federation
x 5.80 Valentin Lavillenie FRA - Only 2 per country
x 5.78 Ilya Mudrov RUS - Suspended Federation

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 1:45 pm

Update: Buchler is competing!

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby Daniel » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:45 pm

According to the IAAF.org info there can be 3 competitors per country including in pole-vault. The official start list is not yet known, will be published on the 17th in the morning but the final entry list are already available on the IAAF web site: see the entry lists to download on the right side of this page
http://www.iaaf.org/news/iaaf-news/even ... tland-2016
and Demi Payne is in the entry list:
8 Countries , 11 athletes:
841 Jennifer SUHR USA 05 Feb 82 5.03 5.03
830 Sandi MORRIS USA 08 Jul 92 4.95 4.95
688 Ekateríni STEFANÍDI GRE 04 Feb 90 4.90 4.90
833 Demi PAYNE USA 30 Sep 91 4.90 4.90
686 Nikoléta KYRIAKOPOÚLOU GRE 21 Mar 86 4.83 o 4.81
760 Eliza MCCARTNEY NZL 11 Dec 96 4.80 o 4.80 o
604 Alana BOYD AUS 10 May 84 4.77 o 4.77 o
790 Nicole BÜCHLER SUI 17 Dec 83 4.75 4.75
623 Fabiana MURER BRA 16 Mar 81 4.85 o 4.71
647 Romana MALÁCOVÁ CZE 15 May 87 4.62 4.62
772 Marta ONOFRE POR 28 Jan 91 4.51 4.51

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby Daniel » Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:52 pm

and final entry list for the men:
9 Countries, 14 athletes:
206 Renaud LAVILLENIE FRA 18 Sep 86 6.16 6.03
143 Shawnacy BARBER CAN 27 May 94 6.00 6.00
134 Thiago Braz DA SILVA BRA 16 Dec 93 5.93 5.93
386 Sam KENDRICKS USA 07 Sep 92 5.90 5.90
230 Konstadínos FILIPPÍDIS GRE 26 Nov 86 5.91 o 5.84
312 Piotr LISEK POL 16 Aug 92 5.90 5.77
202 Jérôme CLAVIER FRA 03 May 83 5.81 5.77
314 Robert SOBERA POL 19 Jan 91 5.81 5.77
170 Jan KUDLICKA CZE 29 Apr 88 5.80 5.77
224 Carlo PAECH GER 18 Dec 92 5.80 o 5.77
261 Seito YAMAMOTO JPN 11 Mar 92 5.77 5.77
366 Mike ARNOLD USA 13 Aug 90 5.77 5.77
166 Michal BALNER CZE 12 Sep 82 5.82 o 5.70
135 Augusto DE OLIVEIRA BRA 16 Jul 90 5.82 o 5.57

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:44 pm

Entries include alternates, USA entering her does not mean the IAAF will accept her. The IAAF preview of the event says she won't be competing: http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-w ... pole-vault

"Such is the USA’s depth this year, they will be leaving behind Payne, who cleared 4.90m last month."

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:48 pm

I should add that Payne was also not on the Team USA roster that was published today. I do believe they are trying to get her in the meet, I am trying to confirm either way. But Demi being in the entries does not mean it is a done deal... but the Team USA roster and event previews are not the final word either...

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby KirkB » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:05 pm

rainbowgirl28 wrote:
2 6.00A =AR Shawn Barber CAN - Confirmed. Wild card winner, but irrelevant since he is the only Canadian.
3 5.93 AR Thiago Braz BRA - Confirmed

Sorry for the dumb question, but what does "AR" mean?

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby KirkB » Mon Mar 14, 2016 10:06 pm

You say there's 2 more slots available on the Canadian team?

Maybe I should come out of retirement! :D

On second thought, I've only cleared 5.71 in my dreams! :D

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 2:06 am

USATF tells me that the entry lists include alternates, there isn't any reason to think Demi will be on the start list unless Morris or Suhr has to withdraw.

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby Daniel » Tue Mar 15, 2016 4:00 pm

KirkB wrote:
rainbowgirl28 wrote:
2 6.00A =AR Shawn Barber CAN - Confirmed. Wild card winner, but irrelevant since he is the only Canadian.
3 5.93 AR Thiago Braz BRA - Confirmed

Sorry for the dumb question, but what does "AR" mean?

Kirk


AR is for Area Record and Areas are continental regions: Africa, Asia, Europe, North&Central America, Oceania, South America

So this is correct for Thiago Braz: 5.93 : South America indoor record
But this seems not correct for Shawn Barber : North America Indoor record is 6.02 for Jeff Hartwig (USA) done in Sindelfingen on 10 MAR 2002

See http://www.iaaf.org/records/by-category/area-records

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Re: Guessing at Worlds Start Lists?

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Mar 15, 2016 9:37 pm

Hartwig's mark was never ratified by USATF (because Jeff didn't know that he needed to submit the paperwork), that could explain the discrepancy.


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