Zürich - New World Record for Isinbayeva 5.06!

[VaultPurple]

so what... only a minimum of 14 more meets before she can attempt 5.20!

[rainbowgirl28]

According to all-athletics.com:

After her 5.06m in Zürich, Yelena Isinbayeva has 24 of the best 28 results (4.85m or more) in women’s Pole Vault

[Bubba PV]

At Reno in 1994 Petrov was asked how high he thought Bubka could jump. I was in the front row with Borya Celentano. His answer was, “for money or sport? For sport I have seen him rep 6.30m in practice. For money it’s 1 cm at a time”. I bet he wishes he would have but up a 6.30m or 6.40m jump. Bubba

[BruceFlorman]

For sport I have seen him rep 6.30m in practice. For money it’s 1 cm at a time”. I bet he wishes he would have but up a 6.30m or 6.40m jump.

There’s at least an outside possibility that Isi might actually take a few shots at reaching her absolute limit before hanging up her spikes. Unlike Bubka, who gave up competing after injuries had taken too much toll, Isi has a concrete plan to quit competing while she’s still got time to start making babies — and she says she wants four of ‘em.

She’s waffled a bit about exactly when that will be. Originally she said she’d retire after the London Olympics in 2012, but shortly after Moscow was awarded the 2013 IAAF World Championships, she said that maybe she’d stick it out for another year. Since then she’s been a bit vague about exactly when she plans on retiring.

But nevertheless… if she’s still in good physical shape during whatever season she decides will be her final one… and if she’s already reached her stated goal of eclipsing Bubka’s total WR count… then it’s vaguely possible that she’ll actually try to put the record up to where even she can’t break it again.

On the other hand, maybe there is some benefit to never actually showing people where your limit lies. When folks write about how high Bubka could’ve gone, if he’d only tried, I can’t help but recall a quote, attributed to Warmerdam, who reputedly was quite amused by the speculation about how high he could’ve jumped in the fiberglass era. I never met the man, and can’t vouch for the authenticity of the quote, but supposedly he said something like… “In 1962 they said I could’ve jumped 16 feet on fiberglass. By 1965 it was 17 feet, and in '68 it was 18. So I’m pretty happy with my progress, considering I haven’t vaulted in 30 years.”

[KYLE ELLIS]

From the head on shot, I don't see much bottom arm pressure at all. She does pull immediately a la agapit's manifesto.

The thing is that her left hand is higher at the plant and she is actually extending up through the shoulders better. And I don't think Agapit was talking about a downward pull, a downward pull would slow pole rotation and make the pole unbend early. Watch this video and see if enlightens you. (fast forward to 4:44)

http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage ... ht-workout

[joebro391]

From the head on shot, I don't see much bottom arm pressure at all. She does pull immediately a la agapit's manifesto.

The thing is that her left hand is higher at the plant and she is actually extending up through the shoulders better. And I don't think Agapit was talking about a downward pull, a downward pull would slow pole rotation and make the pole unbend early.

why do you feel it slows pole rotation and makes it unbend, faster? It's one of those things that I liked, that agapit said, about the pulling. He said, by pulling, with a straight lower body, you'd be able to increase your swing-speed, and put more energy into the system, allowing you to invert, before the pole would unbend.

[KYLE ELLIS]

From the head on shot, I don't see much bottom arm pressure at all. She does pull immediately a la agapit's manifesto.

The thing is that her left hand is higher at the plant and she is actually extending up through the shoulders better. And I don't think Agapit was talking about a downward pull, a downward pull would slow pole rotation and make the pole unbend early.

why do you feel it slows pole rotation and makes it unbend, faster? It's one of those things that I liked, that agapit said, about the pulling. He said, by pulling, with a straight lower body, you'd be able to increase your swing-speed, and put more energy into the system, allowing you to invert, before the pole would unbend.

Joe if your trying to move the pole to vertical, how is pulling down towards the box going to help that rotation? I think people miss understood what he meant by "pull"... It's not a downward pull that causes your left arm to break, its more of a forward action like Hooker is performing (a pull simular to the begenning of a kip) in the video I posted. Notice how Hooker is not breaking at the waist, he is keeping his entire body straight; its basically a pec pull. This is also why I believe Agapit said that for most people the weakest link is the pecs. Also Agapit talked about swinging, Hooker is not trying to simulate the inversion by swinging his legs, it is all in his upperbody. Look at the video again, read what Agapit wrote and put it together. Joe try this, get on a pull up bar and do a pec pull keeping your lower body straight and your arms straight (if you are strong enough to do it). It should look simular to 8:18 in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh9krQwbkgc

Also draw to pictures of a stick figure vaulter in the middle of the swing. Draw one with a bent left arm and the other with extended arms. Draw the pole to bend around both vaulters hands and tell me what the difference is.

[RPVA03]

I have had the opportunity to meet Roman "Agapit" and discuss his ideas on modern vault technique. The pull he teaches IS a pull down, a motion that would be like trying to unbend the bent pole with your lower arm. The pull you are referring to Kyle, is a row. Roman has told me that is not the correct motion.

[rainbowgirl28]

OK guys take the pulldown discussion to a thread n the technique forum, we already have several on it. This thread is about Isi and her world record.

[KYLE ELLIS]

Ok no more will be said. I guess I was wrong about Agapits Manifesto, so I will side with Hooker on this matter. Now the manifesto doesnt make sense to me