Pole Runs

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Unread postby LHSvaulter » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:00 pm

Recently, I have been getting into a slight disagreement with another vaulter on the team about pole runs. He thinks the point of pole runs is to do them in rapid succession to tire yourself out, and from this exertion comes speed. I think that they are to work on form, and with form comes speed.

Which of us is right, or is a combination of our two ideas?

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Unread postby VaultPurple » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:22 pm

i think it is a combination of the both...

i do pole runs to become more consistent with my step and having a smoother plant while running as hard as I can..
But by doing multiple pole runs you do build up speed.

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Unread postby Rhino » Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:45 pm

You build speed by running fast. You run fast by recovering completely between runs.

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Unread postby powerplant42 » Tue Mar 25, 2008 8:22 pm

Don't slack off though. A seven step pole run hardly calls for more than a minute or so of rest...standing...
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Unread postby Lax PV » Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:01 pm

It is really a matter of what you are trying to accomplish. If you are trying to "get in shape," do them with little rest, maybe a minute or so. If you are hitting full speed (as you would on the runway) or really trying to be consistent with your take off step, you would want more time in between.

The rest that you take will (more or less) govern the energy system that you use to complete a task. For an intense, short bout of exercise (like the pole vault) you want to be around the 3 minute period between reps. However, given that most high school meets do not use a "five alive" system in meets, it would be most advantageous, in my opinion anyway, to complete 2 pole runs with little to no rest (<1 minute) and then wait 3 minutes and do 2 more... then 2 more...

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Unread postby vault3rb0y » Wed Mar 26, 2008 5:51 pm

You can kill yourself with speed workouts without a pole.

I do pole runs to work on run technique and pole carry first. I will do about 30m of "form run speed" with the pole almost completely vertical, with no drop or acceleration to full speed. THEN i will work my cadence and pole drop while jogging in place. Finally i do a full approach and count my steps, and imagine i am in a meet scenario. That means full recovery between runs and even catching a step to make sure you are running the same every time. That is definitely the point of pole runs. To work on raw speed i will usually take an average running workout, lets say 6 200's, and substitute pole runs for 2 of them, then finish off the sprints with the rest of the guys with less recovery time.
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Unread postby altius » Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:54 pm

I sometimes wonder why I bothered to write BTB2, when questions like this come up. There are 16 pages detailing the qualities of a good run up and indicating how to build one, in that book. However as I indicated in another forum you can keep reading pole vault power - and eventually -say in ten years or so - you will put together much of the information you need to become a decent vaulter - but it may be a bit too late then. :idea: :yes:

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Unread postby LHSvaulter » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:53 am

By no means am I trying to make this like my own personal blog. I did this to get a little bit of advice. Not having a credit card makes it hard to be able to purchase BTB2. Unless there is someone with multiple copies in south eastern Connecticut, I'll have to wait until my birthday in September to get it. I've wanted it for a while and I have heard excellent things about it-not just on pvp, but from people at meets as well.

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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Fri Mar 28, 2008 12:56 pm

LHSvaulter wrote:By no means am I trying to make this like my own personal blog. I did this to get a little bit of advice. Not having a credit card makes it hard to be able to purchase BTB2. Unless there is someone with multiple copies in south eastern Connecticut, I'll have to wait until my birthday in September to get it. I've wanted it for a while and I have heard excellent things about it-not just on pvp, but from people at meets as well.


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