Women's Pole Vault - Suhr, Holliday, Janson make team

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Women's Pole Vault - Suhr, Holliday, Janson make team

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:03 am

Ummm Flashresults is still missing a few athletes, regardless of whether or not they let Jade in... I know Katelin, Emily and Steph did check in today!

Here is the startlist as of 6/22/12

Women's Pole Vault (Final) 1:00pm

Event Records
Record Tag Mark Athlete Affiliation Date
World W 5.06m 16-7 ¼ Yelena Isinbayeva RUS August 20 2009
American A 4.92m 16-1 ¾ Jenn Stuczynski adidas July 6 2008
Meet M 4.92m 16-1 ¾ Jennifer Stuczynski adidas July 6 2008
OG A 4.50m 14-9

Progression: 4.25/4.40/4.50/4.55/4.60/4.65 then 5cm
Now a FINAL, preliminaries were cancelled

Flight 1
Pos Name Affiliation
1 Samantha Sonnenberg Unattached
2 Morgann Leleux Georgia
3 Kylie Hutson Nike
4 Angela Rummans Unattached
5 Vera Neuenswander Unattached
6 Lacy Janson Nike
7 Melissa Gergel Unattached
8 Allison Stokke Unattached
9 Megan Jamerson Unattached
10 Janice Keppler Unattached
11 Jennifer Suhr adidas
12 Becky Holliday Unattached
13 Mary Saxer N Y A C
14 Logan Miller Washington
15 Katherine Viuf Unattached
16 Melinda Owen Unattached
17 Bethany Buell South Dakota
18 Leslie Brost North Dakota State
19 Alexandra Acker Oklahoma
20 Katie Stripling Unattached
21 April Kubishta Unattached
22 Kathleen Majester Unattached
23 Brysun Stately Unattached
24 April Bennett Asics

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal -

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:06 am

It will most likely be cold and wet on Sunday. Here is the height progression: 4.25/4.40/4.50/4.55/4.60/4.65 then 5cm

There will probably be 27 or 28 athletes competing... any guesses on how many NHs? I'm going with half the field.

Having said that, I FULLY support this height progression. It's probably what they had set up in advance anyway. With that many vaulters, you can't waste time at those lower heights. It will probably take well over an hour to get through that 4.25 bar as it is.

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Unread postby SmurfonaStick » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:12 am

rainbowgirl28 wrote:There will probably be 27 or 28 athletes competing... any guesses on how many NHs? I'm going with half the field.


With that opening height.... Id unfortunately guess 10+... at the least.

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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:17 am

I should add that the forecast is for more rain and cool temperatures. If it was 80 degrees and sunny I'd be a lot more optimistic.

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Unread postby achtungpv » Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:05 am

rainbowgirl28 wrote:I should add that the forecast is for more rain and cool temperatures. If it was 80 degrees and sunny I'd be a lot more optimistic.


Assuming it does rain and is 60 degrees, 440 will probably make the team.
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Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:37 am

achtungpv wrote:
rainbowgirl28 wrote:I should add that the forecast is for more rain and cool temperatures. If it was 80 degrees and sunny I'd be a lot more optimistic.


Assuming it does rain and is 60 degrees, 440 will probably make the team.


Nah, even in the cold and rain, I feel confident that at least three girls will jump 4.50+

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:08 am

OK the officials told the vaulters yesterday that they didn't think they could do five-alive in the final.

USATF 2012 Rule Book http://www.usatf.org/about/rules/2012/2012rules.pdf Rule 180-7

When there are more than 15 competitors in a field event and the time available for the meet makes the holding of a qualifying competition impractical, the following procedure may be used:

(b) In the vertical jumping events, rotating flights may be used until there are 12 or fewer competitors remaining in competition after the conclusion of jumping at any height. In rotating flights, four or five competitors, as deter- mined by the Games Committee, constitute a flight. As the competitor clears the bar, passes a turn or is eliminated, the next competitor in order is moved up so that the number of competitors in the active flight remains approximately constant.



That looks pretty clear to me that they _can_ do five-alive...

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal

Unread postby botakatobi » Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:47 am

In championship meets, 5 alive is normally used with the rule specific number of athletes competing at any height. Assuming the majority of the women will come in at the opening height, I want to know the rationale for not using it.

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:03 am

http://london2012.blogs.nytimes.com/201 ... their-say/


In a Secret Ballot, Pole-Vaulters Have Their Say
By SAM BORDEN
EUGENE, Ore. — How is it determined that an Olympic trials competition should be postponed because of weather? Sometimes, apparently, the process resembles a student council election.

At least that is what happened with the women’s pole vault on Friday afternoon. As downpours doused Hayward Field all day, most of the events simply went on as planned. The sprinters pounded through puddles; the long jumpers landed in soaking sand. When the finals in the 10,000 meters were held, the runners were nearly washed away during the early laps.

With the pole vault, however, the safety concerns that go along with a group of athletes flying several stories in the air made the issue more delicate. In most instances, postponements of an event are handled by the meet’s competition committee and a unilateral decision is handed down. On Friday, however, a more democratic approach was used.

With the athletes and their coaches gathered in the check-in tent, organizers initially said preliminary rounds of competition would be moved to Saturday with the finals going on as scheduled Sunday. This prompted an uproar from most of the coaches present who thought it was unreasonable to have the athletes vault twice in such a short time span.

After a few moments of chaos, one of the meet officials shouted out that all coaches should the leave the tent and the athletes should come in and form a tight circle. The competitors were then presented with three choices, according to one of the vaulters, Mary Saxer: Stick to the original schedule and hold the preliminary rounds in the rain Friday with the finals scheduled for Sunday; move the preliminary rounds to Saturday and have the finals on Sunday; or cancel the preliminary rounds altogether and simply hold a single competition on Sunday in which the top three finishers in the field earn a berth in the London Games.

The athletes were then told to vote for one of the choices. To avoid any awkwardness, organizers did not utilize a “show of hands” approach nor did they take any chances with the inevitable peeking that occurs anytime the “put your head down” approach to voting. Instead, each athlete received paper and a pencil, according to Saxer, and then cast their votes in a grade-school style secret ballot.

“We were shocked to be asked like that,” Saxer said in a telephone interview. “But I think everyone was happy because it was really the most fair way. If everyone kept shouting, people who might be quieter wouldn’t have had their opinions heard.”

Saxer voted for a one-day final on Sunday and was pleased to see that option earned a plurality. The field of 29 athletes — including the favorite, Jenn Suhr, who is a five-time United States outdoor champion — will begin its competition at 1 p.m.

The vaulters’ surprise over the process was not unexpected, as player voting on logistics of a competition is rare in major sports.

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:05 am

Lives X's and Os will be here: http://www.usatf.org/events/2012/Olympi ... ts26-2.htm

I will be tweeting descriptions of every jump (as best I can): https://twitter.com/polevaultpower

The meet will be on NBC, check out usatf.org for the schedule.

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal

Unread postby Vaultref » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:39 am

botakatobi wrote:In championship meets, 5 alive is normally used with the rule specific number of athletes competing at any height. Assuming the majority of the women will come in at the opening height, I want to know the rationale for not using it.


Ya do what meet management says to do.. initial information to us was to use it. We'll find out for sure 100 minutes prior to start time,

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Re: Women's Pole Vault SuperFinal

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:32 pm

Oh crap I think I broke my Twitter with too many tweets!! Someone spread the word...

Bar at 450, Majester bails, her first miss of the day. Janson big make!!
Holliday big make too!


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