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[EIUvltr]

Just to clarify, your body does have Creatine phosphate in it already, probably 3 to 4 times as much as ATP at any one time. However, you can still increase the amount you have so that you are able to fuel intense effort for a longer duration. I only said this because I didn't want people to get the impression that CP wasn't a naturally occurring compound.

And ADTF is correct, if you eat a lot of meat, you probably have already maxed out your Creatine capacity since creatine is really only a group of 3 amino acids (protein). However, there are other health problems associated with a ridiculously carnivorous diet, so supplementation is a worthy substitute.

[VaultMarq26]

THANK YOU.......finally someone who doesn't get their nutritional information from Men's Fittness.

[bvpv07]

Ugh, okay here goes, this is what creatine does.

There are several energy pathways in your body, the most kickass of which is the ATP-CP system (distance runners may disagree, but who cares about them).

ATP has 3 phosphate groups and needs to lose one of them to give off energy. So now you have all this ADP wandering around like hookers without their pimp. Luckily you've been supplementing with CP (creatine phosphate (The Pimp supplement (see where I'm going with this?))) So the creatine phosphate is happy to give up a phosphate group so the ADP can become ATP again, and can give off more energy (turn tricks). Basically the more CP you have, the longer you can sustain intense oxygen-independent physical activity. That is why people who take creatine say they feel like after an hour of working out, they still have a lot of energy.

They should put this on the package. Hahaha...great job!

[robillard]

basically, i mean really bascally, creatine holds water in your muscles. this is why people gain weight wen they take it. they also lose a lot of mass if they stop and theyve relied to heavily on it in the past. if you take to much and dont work out enough for your body to use it all you'll get a gut.now anyways. if you do any type of distance training, if you wrestle, if you ever half to cut weight for any reason DO NOT TAKE CREATINE. if not and your fine with the added water weight the go right on ahead.
the reason i say not to take it if you do those things is because some wrestlers who had no idea wat creatine did decided to take it in season while trying to cut water weight. ok now creatine takes the water in your body and stores it in your muscles, now your emptying the rest of the water out by running and other such things to lose weight. so anywyas they completely dehydrated and died because of this so now every wreslter has to go through "weight certification".
long story short creatine + weight loss = bad
it is a great supplement that gives you a lot of energy, a great pump, and and good recovery. but in order for it to work, and work well make sure you drink a lot of water while taking it. especialy if you dehydrate, sweat, alot.

[ADTF Academy]

Forgot about this discussion.

Muscle is where most of your water retention occurs period.

If you can bulk/muscle mass you put on weight because of water retention.

The creatine supplementation does increase recovery time so you can do more reps in the 1 hour window because it takes a little less time to reach 98% replenishment.

Studies have shown that at roughly 3 min you hit 98% recovery. Take supplementation might drop that to 2:45. Wow an extra 15 seconds.

The typical stance on training speed as an example calls for roughly a max of around 500 meters give or take a 100 meters based on training age and experience. Who cares if you have an extra 15 seconds per rep when you have a max on suggested training.

Supplementation of creatine is a way to increase the liklihood of over training.

Now to answer a post made about me saying I don't agree with supplementation please speak for yourself and not me Tre. I never said that in fact I highly encourage supplementation but of the right kinds and mixture.

Creatine is just one that I feel is not needed. Take the extra and proper rest and you will be fine.

[vault3rb0y]

Ok im not an expert, but my doctor is and i actually talked to him about this. (former athlete as well). He basically explained that it shortens your recovery time by the formula mentioned above, but that if you can wait the extra time and recover on your own, its all the same. Then you wont have to deal with kidney problems, weight gaining problems, inconsistency with training ability, and all the unknown and uninvestigated effects of ANY supplement not regulated by the FDA.

[captainfalcon43]

what do you guys think about taking whey protein, or just glutamine by itself?

[ADTF Academy]

Post workout not bad.

Make sure it is Whey Protein ISOLATE

Concentrate is junk and your wasting your time and money.

Remember if you are lactate intolerate you will get sick. It is a milk substance. You should not take more more around 50 grams a day, I beleive. Been a while since I looked at the studies. 50 grams seems to pop up in my mind.