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Best Push Off Ever?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 12:42 am
by Mecham
Does anyone know what the best push off is? Is it recorded somewheres? I'd like to know and maybe even see a video if possible?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:37 am
by master
I don't know if it is the best, but check out the video of Paul Burgess here
http://www.polevaultpower.com/media/video/
I believe this push off was just over 4 feet!

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 1:49 am
by CrossBarHOpper
Tim Mack gets the most in the 6 Meter club 121 cm

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 3:39 pm
by Scott Go Pre
Mike Cotton, if anyone here remembers who that is -- back from the 70's, was able to get over a 3' push off back in the day. My friend and I are trying to break him so he will tell us his secret of how to get such a great push off.

His boys, Charlie and David, might be sworn to secrecy, but I think that I might be able to get it from them ;)

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Posted: Sun May 01, 2005 10:35 pm
by theplan77
paul burgess pushed 1m29cm when he jumped 6m

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:13 pm
by souleman
Go take a look at Bubka over at Stabochsprunneshomtpoysbrvc, Oh....what ever that place is. and his 6.11 jump. I think it's the last one on the page. What I've commented on before and it still is amazing to me just how "violent" that push off is. Don't only look at where the crossbar is but how he just sails over it and by how much. Now that's a push off! Later............Mike

Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 6:15 pm
by Lax PV
I think, if you watch Veo Vault 2 (Bring It) ...I think its that one at least, there is a clip of Scott Huffman, I think he was about 3'10", when he cleared 19'4, I might be wrong on the exact numbers, but I know he had a really good one.

Whats the best push off you all have had?

Im somewhere 17' or 18"... I like to dump out on top...and suggestions to fix it?

Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:12 am
by ryansanta
Lax PV wrote:Im somewhere 17' or 18"... I like to dump out on top...and suggestions to fix it?


I went from a 8" push to a 24" push in one meet just by turning earlier (while extending and raising hips and the pole is uncoiling). Obviously I have no clue how your turn is but a proper turn close to the pole always helps. Not to mention having a later turn/not turning in time with extending causes flagging out due to loss of momentum.

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Posted: Fri May 06, 2005 12:46 am
by theplan77
im under the impression that the height of your push is proportional to the flex of your pole in relation to your bodyweight. Considering 2 vaulters got into the exact same position when upside down, the vaulter with the least bodyweight compared to the flex of the pole, will consistently push (and jump) higher......in my opinion that "violence" in the push seen in a few vaulters (as mentioned above) ie Bubka and Paul Burgess jumping 5.95......is a result of the fact that both jump on stiff stiff poles in relation to their bodyweight...it gives them a slight "catapult" section of their vault....is narly to watch....just a thought

Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 11:51 pm
by altius
And the reason why Bubka -and to a slightly lesser extent, Paul, gets this result is that his technical model ensured that he can put energy into the pole throught the entire vault - this means that he could grip higher on bigger poles -poles well above his body weight. So even allowing for energy losses throughout the vault he still had enough left over to project him off the top of the pole faster than any other vaulter. In fact in some of Bubkas jumps this occured without him actually finishing the vault with a full extension of his right arm.

However it also depends on the alignment of the body with the pole as the latter recoils and the 'tightness' of the athletes body. Think of an arrow being fired by a bow -think of a regular arrow compared with one that mushes as the energy of the bow hits it. :idea:

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:39 am
by Mecham
I just did a quick calculation. If you use Bubka's grip hieght on his world record jump, and his clearance of his "famous" 6.01 meter jump where scientests say he cleared 21 feet, technically his push off is 1.42 meters, or in english, 4.6 feet. Quite a push right there!

Posted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 3:40 am
by Mecham
I think