Re: Incidents Involving Winged Box Collars
Posted: Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:58 pm
No jury is going to expect school administrators to purchase a $75 ASTM standard and attempt to interpret whether or not two similar looking collars meet it.
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Darth Vaulter wrote:rainbowgirl28 wrote:I agree with Decamouse. I spoke about this in-person with Becky Oakes in December. The NFHS requires you to use a collar that states it meets the ASTM standard. The NFHS is not attempting to interpret the standard or figure out if a certain collar actually meets the standard, nor do they expect high school coaches or administrators to do so. If there is an issue, then that will be on that manufacturer in a lawsuit.
The NFHS rules require "planting box padding meeting the applicable ASTM Specification Standard" NOT padding "that states it meets the ASTM standard." The lawsuit against the manufacturer that is blithley referred to above will be a lawsuit that has the high school's coaches and administrators as parties. If that lawsuit involves the UCS collar, there is a greater liability risk for the coaches and administrators who chose the UCS collar that might meet the ASTM standard rather than the Gill collar that clearly does. Becky Oakes' conversation with Becca in December 2014 will be of no use in that lawsuit. Until the NFHS rule is changed, the ASTM standard is changed or clarified, or the question of whether the UCS collar meets the current ASTM standard is resolved, the Gill collar is the prudent choice from a risk management standpoint.
Rule 7-5-24…The planting box shall not contain any foreign materials except
planting box padding. Such padding, if used, shall meet the applicable ASTM
Specification Standard, and can be incorporated into the design of the planting
box or can be a padding addition to an existing planting box.
Darth Vaulter wrote:... from the 2014 NFHS Rule Book:
"2. Padding meeting the ASTM Standards shall be required for the start of the 2014-15 track and field season."
Decamouse wrote:NFHS stated they require compliance with ASTM - it is the manufacture that states they comply -- NCAA stated they need to be version with wings - NFHS does not - so the UCS is acceptable -Gill says/implies that NFHS requires wings which is not true - NFHS requires an ASTM box collar
Decamouse wrote: Question -- What did the NCAA use at recent Nationals in Eugene?
pv161 wrote:the UCS box collars were used.
NO WINGS NO WAY!
Effective in the 2015 season, the 719 SafetyMax+ Vault Box Collar will be the only one to meet ASTM F2949 standards as mandated by the NFHS.
Other box collars do not have wings that properly descend into the vault box as shown in the ASTM Standard F2949-12, and thus are not NFHS or NCAA legal. Only the 719 SafetyMax+ Box Collar from Gill Athletics has the exclusive edge-wrap protection of a winged design, as illustrated in the ASTM F2949-12 Standard.
The NEW UCS Pole Vault Box Collar System Meets ASTM F2949-12 Standard to be compliant with 2015 NCAA & NFHS Rules
1. NCAA rules require wings, which may be cantilevered above the box, or may wrap down into the box.
2. NFHS rules do not require wings.
3. Gill is falsely advertising their box collar (the UCS box collar is legal for both HS and NCAA meets).
4. NCAA is enforcing their box collar rule (the UCS box collar at the 2015 NCAA Championships was compliant).