The gap between male and female vaulters

A forum to discuss pole vaulting related things of a historical nature.
User avatar
vault3rb0y
PV Rock Star
Posts: 2458
Joined: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:59 pm
Expertise: College Coach, Former College Vaulter
Lifetime Best: 5.14m
Location: Still Searching
Contact:

The gap between male and female vaulters

Unread postby vault3rb0y » Mon Nov 22, 2010 11:36 am

Is it closing?

Years ago I heard people saying that generally, at any level, there was an approximate 4 foot gap between male and female vaulters. The Male WR is about 20', the womens is about 16'. Auto-qualifying standards for Men at NCAA's is 18', for women it is 14'.

But it recent years (5-10), do you feel that the level of competition among women has risen? I feel like it's a lot more common to see 13' vaulters on the women's side in college than 17' on the men's. Now obviously men have been vaulting for longer than women, and it's only natural to see womenfolk's heights to continue to rise because of this (I remember when 15' was a HUGE deal at the Olympic level.) This is just anecdotal, but I wish we could do a statistical regression to compare hieghts for men and women in the past several years.

Does anyone else feel this may be true? Have any other thoughts?
The greater the challenge, the more glorious the triumph

User avatar
rainbowgirl28
I'm in Charge
Posts: 30435
Joined: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:59 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, I coach and officiate as life allows
Lifetime Best: 11'6"
Gender: Female
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Favorite Vaulter: Casey Carrigan
Location: A Temperate Island
Contact:

Re: The gap between male and female vaulters

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Mon Nov 22, 2010 12:47 pm

At the higher levels, the difference between men and women is somewhere around a meter, maybe a meter and some change.

User avatar
VaultPurple
PV Lover
Posts: 1079
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:44 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, College Coach, Pole Vault Addict
Favorite Vaulter: Greg Duplantis
Location: North Carolina

Re: The gap between male and female vaulters

Unread postby VaultPurple » Mon Nov 22, 2010 3:26 pm

It is closing because there are a lot more women pole vaulters now, for the next few years or decades, women will get closer but never catch men. Just like in other sports like running events and swimming, where some of the top women can drop some times that would beat a lot of very good guys on the high school and college level, but still is a bit off from the very top guys.

The same way u can see a women run in the mid 10.ss and that would do very well on a whole lot of men's teams. There will be a women to jump 17 foot.. maybe even 18 eventually. Would be a lot sooner if you could get that 10.6 or 24 foot long jumping girl to put a pole in her hand.

But hopefully we will see a 21' guy too!

User avatar
achtungpv
PV Rock Star
Posts: 2359
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2002 2:34 pm
Location: Austin, TX

Re: The gap between male and female vaulters

Unread postby achtungpv » Wed Dec 01, 2010 1:02 pm

VaultPurple wrote:The same way u can see a women run in the mid 10.ss and that would do very well on a whole lot of men's teams. There will be a women to jump 17 foot.. maybe even 18 eventually. Would be a lot sooner if you could get that 10.6 or 24 foot long jumping girl to put a pole in her hand.


If Jackie Joyner Kersee was a vaulter, she'd hand Isi her a** in a brown paper bag. Unfortunately in the women's vault, we haven't seen athletes even in the same ballpark of the upper end of raw athletic ability like her yet.
"You have some interesting coaching theories that seem to have little potential."

High on Vault
PV Newbie
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:49 pm
Expertise: Post Collegiate Vaulter, Coach
Lifetime Best: 11'
Gender: Female
World Record Holder?: Renaud Lavillenie
Favorite Vaulter: Sam Kendricks

Re: The gap between male and female vaulters

Unread postby High on Vault » Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:01 pm

I have heard from one of my coach that when vaulting started for girls in high school over 10 years ago they had to compete with the boys, and it was still thought that vaulting for a girl would mess up their internal orgrans. Its cool to me how this mind set has progressed to a close hieght comparison.

User avatar
VaultPurple
PV Lover
Posts: 1079
Joined: Wed Feb 20, 2008 9:44 pm
Expertise: Former College Vaulter, College Coach, Pole Vault Addict
Favorite Vaulter: Greg Duplantis
Location: North Carolina

Re: The gap between male and female vaulters

Unread postby VaultPurple » Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:12 pm

In college right now there are 38 guys over 17' (5.20m), but only 17 over 13'6. The 38th girl in the nation is jumping 4.00m. So I guess in college right now it is more like a 4 foot difference. There is also a 1.22m difference in first place male and first place female.

And on the world standing. The number one guy is 5.80m and number one girl is 4.60m, putting them at 1.20m apart.

But indoor on the world standing the number one guy jumped 6.03m and the number one girl jumped 4.86m which puts them at 1.17m apart.

However when you look at world records there is only a 1.09m difference between Isinbaeva and Bubka which is a 3'7 difference.

And if you want to compare world records in other events.. The men's world record in the 100m has an average speed that produces enough energy to have about a 1.19m difference from the energy produced from the average speed in the women's 100m dash world record. But in my opinion both sexes are underachieving, because there are guys fast enough to run well over 10m/s down the runway, and there are women out there capable of running over 9m/s down the runway.... Just have to get them to pole vault, or have the guys vaulting focus more on running faster with the pole to hit those high speeds.


Return to “Pole Vault - Historical”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 21 guests