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Top Ten Vaulters of All Time

Unread postby lonestar » Mon Nov 10, 2003 1:05 pm

Somebody posted this on the Track and Field News Message Board:

http://www.trackandfieldnews.com/tfn/discussion/viewThread.jsp?forum=1&thread=2569

Top ten all-time pole vaulters:

1. Sergey Bubka
2. Bob Richards
3. Dutch Warmerdam
4. Bob Seagren
5. John Pennel
6. Don Bragg
7. Maksim Tarasov
8. Rodion Gataullin
9. Wladyslaw Kozakiewicz
10. Thierry Vigneron

How would each of y'alls Top Ten list be different? I think it would be easier to separate the lists into pre-fiberglass, and fiberglass/carbon era, of course, then it wouldn't be an "all-time" list. I would definitely want Hartwig and EB on there, maybe in place of Gataullin (although he was great too) and/or Kozakiewicz. Kjell Isakksson (sp) would be on my list too.

I guess the hard part is criteria though, do you base it on records achieved, Olympic or World Championship medals earned, technique, longevity in the sport, or simply height? :confused: Probably a combination of each.

Let's see y'alls lists! :idea:
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Unread postby wacky274 » Mon Nov 10, 2003 2:42 pm

I found out something intersting lately that i know someone who is related to Kozakiewicz. Just something i find to be fairly interesting, kinda a random note though. But it just shows how small of world we really live in.
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Unread postby mcminkz05 » Mon Nov 10, 2003 10:15 pm

wow, i havnt even hraed of most of those guys :o
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Unread postby VTechVaulter » Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:42 am

mcminkz05 wrote:wow, i havnt even hraed of most of those guys :o


Bubka - if u dont know, your on the wrong board
Bob richards - only 2 time olympic vault champion
Dutch warmerdamn - jumped 15ft or better 30 somethin times before the next person did it
Bob seagran - first indoor 17 foot vault
John Pennel - first 17 foot vault (into sawdust)
Don Bragg - all time best steel vault (15'9 i believe)
Maksim tarasov - jumped 16 when 16, 17 when 17, 18 when 18, and 19 when 19. Also a coholder of the nonbubka world record at 19'10
Radion Gataulin - another coholder of the nonbubka wr
Kozakiewicz - no idea
Vigneron - one of the technical bests, held wr before bubka, and between a couple of bubkas vaults. Jumped 19'5

if anyone knows about kozakiewicz, id be interested to know. gotta know your history :yes:
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Unread postby Skyin' Brian » Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:48 am

Gataullin is not the other non-bubka record holder. that man is dimitri markov. i actually saw that vault in person at the 2001 world championships in edmonton 6.05m. i still cant believe that he cleared that. it was amazing. above 6 meters a vault has to be pretty much perfect. unless you are bubka.
i wonder if warmerdam would beat bubka if bubka vaulted in the days of bamboo or if dutch vaulted on fiberglass

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Unread postby zack » Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:56 am

Kozakiewicz is only the 1980 Olympic gold medalist (from Poland). Legend has it that as he was preparing to take his last jump to secure the win, the Soviets opened the gates of the stadium which cause a huge gust of wind and it made him so mad that he charged down the runway and smoked the bar.

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Unread postby PVJunkie » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:32 am

Not counting Bubka..............all outdoor jumps over 6.00m.

6.05 Maksim Tarasov RUS 02 12 1970 1 Athína 16 06 1999
6.05 Dmitri Markov AUS 14 03 1975 1 Edmonton 09 08 2001
6.03 Sergey Bubka 1 Praha 23 06 1987
6.03 Okkert Brits RSA 22 08 1973 1 Köln 18 08 1995
6.03 Jeff Hartwig USA 25 09 1967 1 Jonesboro 14 06 2000
6.02 Sergey Bubka 1 Atlanta, GA 18 05 1996
6.02 Jeff Hartwig 1 Eugene, OR 27 06 1999
6.02 Maksim Tarasov 1 Sevilla 26 08 1999
6.01 Sergey Bubka 1 Moskva 08 07 1986
6.01 Okkert Brits 1 Stellenbosch 15 03 1996
6.01 Igor Trandenkov RUS 17 08 1966 1 Sankt-Peterburg 04 07 1996
6.01 Sergey Bubka 1 Athína 10 08 1997
6.01 Jeff Hartwig 1 Uniondale 21 07 1998
6.01 Maksim Tarasov 1 Berlin 07 09 1999
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Paris 13 07 1985
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Donetsk 15 09 1989
6.00 Radion Gataullin UZB 23 11 1965 1 Tokyo 16 09 1989
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Bratislava 04 06 1991
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Saint-Denis 04 06 1992
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Berlin 21 08 1992
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 San José, CRC 29 05 1993
6.00 Radion Gataullin 1 Roma 27 06 1993
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Stuttgart 19 08 1993
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Kuortane 25 06 1994
6.00 Radion Gataullin 1 Helsinki 11 08 1994
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Sapporo 27 08 1994
6.00 A Sergey Bubka 1 Sestriere 29 07 1995
6.00 A Okkert Brits 2 Sestriere 29 07 1995
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Paris 28 06 1996
6.00 Maksim Tarasov 1 Nice 16 07 1997
6.00 Tim Lobinger GER 03 09 1972 1 Köln 24 08 1997
6.00 Maksim Tarasov 2 Fukuoka 13 09 1997
6.00 Dmitri Markov 1 North Shore 20 02 1998
6.00 Jeff Hartwig 1 Saint-Denis 04 06 1998
6.00 Jeff Hartwig 2 Athína 16 06 1999
6.00 Tim Lobinger 1 Oslo 30 06 1999
6.00 Maksim Tarasov 1 Monaco 04 08 1999

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Unread postby PVJunkie » Tue Nov 11, 2003 10:34 am

Same for indoor.

6.02 Radion Gataullin UZB 23 11 1965 1 Gomel 04 02 1989
6.02 Jeff Hartwig USA 25 09 1967 1 Sindelfingen 10 03 2002
6.01 Sergey Bubka 1 Grenoble 07 02 1993
6.00 Radion Gataullin 1 Sankt-Peterburg 22 01 1989
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Sevilla 09 03 1991
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Los Angeles, CA 15 02 1992
6.00 Radion Gataullin 1 Moskva 02 02 1993
6.00 Radion Gataullin 2 Liévin 13 02 1993
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Clermont-Ferrand 28 01 1994
6.00 Sergey Bubka 1 Liévin 19 02 1995
6.00 Maksim Tarasov RUS 02 12 1970 1 Budapest 05 02 1999
6.00 Jean Galfione FRA 09 06 1971 1 Maebashi 06 03 1999
6.00 Danny Ecker GER 21 07 1977 1 Dortmund 11 02 2001
6.00 Jeff Hartwig 1 Donetsk 24 02

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Unread postby VTechVaulter » Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:11 am

yeah, i knew about markov. i guess i was wrong about gataulin looking at those lists. thanks for the correction
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Unread postby PVJunkie » Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:24 am

Actually..............I would pick Gataullin over Makov every time. Makov has only been over 6.00 twice..............Gataullin 7 times and he has done it indoor and out, Markov has only done it outdoor. Of couse that could change when you consider Markov is still jumping and Gataullin is retired.

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Unread postby Skyin' Brian » Tue Nov 11, 2003 5:13 pm

plus you have to give some weight to markov's world title

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Unread postby PVJunkie » Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:48 pm

Pretty solid resume in his own right.................Dmitri still has some catching up to do.


Radion Gataullin, the double European champion (1990 and 1994), and 1988 Olympic silver medallist at the men’s Pole Vault, has also finished his career. The 37-year-old marked the end of his career at the St. Petersburg city championships during the weekend of 18-19 January 2003. However, Gataullin will stay in close touch with the sport having been appointed as National Pole Vault coach for Russia.


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