altius wrote:Funny that will old son. But you should know that I can give you the names of coaches in several countries who have taken up my interpretation of the Petrov/BUBKA model with 'ordinary' athletes - and there are many more in the USA. The latter are probably fed up with the bulls*** that folk like you put up here and don't bother to visit PVP anymore - but if you like I can sic a few of them on you -especially if I tell them that the evidence suggests that you are a talker not a real coach! Let us have your record - it seems from the previous post that it may not be what you claim it is and that you could not coach your way out of a paper bag! But then some people have always substituted bull s*** for actual performance.
More importantly I can point to an extraordinary set of performances (As many coaches in the US and around the world) believe them to be) from both boys and girls in the track and field wastelands of Adelaide - a town with one track - which is 450 miles away from the next track in the east and over 2000 miles away from that in the west! Intelligent coaches reading this will understand the impact of that statement.
As to the question 'of my model dying'' - I assume you mean the Petrov/Bubka model - it is most assuredly not. In Adelaide we have one 16 year old boy at 5.05 and another 16 yo at 4.85. The former will be in Eugene in July so any US coaches who are interested and can get there will see what our version of the Petrov model looks like - with a lad who probably could do with a couple of rockets attached to his rear. However you will also see a swag of athletes from all over the world using this model to jump high.
Then in the past couple of years we have had two US coaches travel to Adelaide to study our methods - that is a long long way to come to learn something that has no value! The first was Rick Baggett from Oregon- who I suspect has more credibility as a coach than you are ever likely to have, and Phil Ericson a young college coach from Minneapolis - who subsequently invited me to his place last year to do a very successful clinic - 39 athletes and 19 coaches attended. But even more interesting - in two weeks time Jason Pelletier - a former athlete of our old mate AVCcoach from Arkansas, Penn State Grad in Biomechanics I believe, and presently a coach at Bucknell is coming out here for two months to study what we do. Doesn't sound as though you should start reading the last rites on our methods just yet!!!!
Just waiting to get some film of a 12 year old girl so that I can post it to show that even athletes as young as that can begin to master elements of the model - and benefit from using it. She will jump at least 11' within a year of taking up the vault Her main sport - which she plays year round is basketball.
May I might point out that Brian - extraordinary performances for 5' 3" - came to a couple of my clinics with Todd Cooper in Excelsior Springs when he was in High School. May even have come when he was in College as well. Anyone who has seen him vault will have noticed his great take off.
But I suspect none of this will make any difference to your ranting - you are on an ego trip. In your dreams you are ripping a couple of the best authorities on the vault on the planet apart. Probably this is a substitute for your coaching performance, which I understand is pretty sub average in the schools you have coached at.
As a 16 year old in 83 I cleared 15' 6" by a foot or better at Rick Attig's Raytown South Camp. WIth poor footspeed. But, heck, never having heard of the PB model, I didn't know what I was doing I guess. Is that good for you or me? LOL.
Look, here's something you might find funny. I was at a big meet in STL, the Vianney relays, with 120 schools. I had to wait two days to vault. I cleared 12' and passed to 13' 6" which I cleared on a 60' run. Meet record was 14' 9" so I asked for 14' 9 1/2" and hauled out the big pole and went back to my long run. As I got about halfway down the runway Dave Bussabarger, who was standing next to my dad unaware that this was the case said, "He's not going to make it." Well, long story short he was wrong. And so maybe we do have something in common!
In my career, I had 8 days of good coaching. 8 days. One of the great ironies in my life was that I was all set to go to Kansas because short vaulter Jeff Buckingham had held the AR. I had scholarships in academics and so was planning on just walking on. Now nominally his coach was Roger Bowen. At point we came into contact and he informed me he was moving to Ohio State and offered me a bit of a scholarship. I took him up on it. At Ohio State he was the head CC coach, and we never got any hands on coaching from him or anyone. No critique. No video review. Nothing. I suffered two injuries and quit. But the interesting thing was that his replacement at Kansas was one Rick Attig, that at one time called me the most powerful vaulter he'd ever seen. That was probably before Huffman, LOL. Anyway, might be an anecdote to show coaching is overvalued, as my guess is Buckingham didn't get much help either, and achieved his results mostly solo. I could be wrong, Roger may have been hitched on that bandwagon.
Must be nice to get talent funneled to you...