Tsorenson wrote:Those who try to keep it long without the flexion end up having to tuck because their swing is too slow.
This jump proves that thought wrong: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5H25TG1e ... re=related
I can do with a little bit of of flexion, but not much. Nothing like Mack.
AVC Coach wrote:Come on joebro! Do you really mean that? Tim Mack's an Olympic gold medalist and has been higher than 6m and your way is better?
First off, I'm disappointed on so many level's that you'd pull out the Gold-Medal card on Mack. Lavillenie has jumped 6.06 (HIGHER than Mack), but I'd NEVER, in a million years teach anyone to jump like him. Yea, you can jump high with poor technique, but that doesn't make it proper. And it's not MY way, it's my observations based upon the Petrov/6.40 Model.
So we go back to my previous statement. If we're talking about a slight-break like Duplantis, than I agree with Altius and Tsorenson. Anything more than that and I'm against it. And honestly, the slight knee-break that Greg does would add little to no energy to the swing and yet he has one of the most powerful swings in the sport. For Greg, most energy comes from his run (obviously), but his swing-energy (second part of the jump) comes from keep that trail-leg long behind him and hitting take-off at a good angle to whip everything through. Even on some of Bubka's jumps, he just slightly broke it and then snapped it through. One some of the jumps where he broke it 'more', his hips would come forward a bit, and he's recover the jump, but not work quite so "ahead of the pole" as he normally does. And for us mere mortals, we can't always recover once we've let our hips through like that. it's just not smooth.
Bubka 6.15: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ34Pc-1 ... re=related
I don't see much breakage at the knee. A slight amount (that I'm okay with), but not even close to Mack's amount.
Do all the "self" testing you want but what Altius and Tom are telling you makes perfect sense. If anything, finishing the take-off keeps your hips from being sucked under.
Well it's pretty obvious that Mack's hips are getting sucked under...so are you saying that he doesn't finish take-off? Cause most people will say that the best part of Mack's jump was his take-off. I believe that he could jumped the AR in 2008 had he not let his hips get sucked under (had he not broken at the knee AS MUCH), notice I say "AS MUCH" and not "AT ALL".
-6P