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Decamouse wrote:Simple analogy - jump up and grap a high bar - you are not longer touching the ground - so how could you then do any movement or do swings faster and faster?? Ok that is a rigid or semi-rigid device attached to ground

So next what about rings - yep - they are a flexible attachment

With the pole - as long as it is in the box and you are hanging on to it (attached) - while it is a bit more complex system -- work can be done - energy generated - question is how much and can you use it - some can - most of us - that is one of the goals

yoboe wrote:damn why are bubkas heights so untouchable?

yoboe wrote:it was rhetorical. i understand for the most part why bubka went so high, i was just commenting on how no one else can.