What was Tully at before you started these changes? Over that 18 month what was the rate of improvement to digression in meets? At this time was Tully taken care of or was he struggling to make a name for himself too? How long had he been jumping and training prior to the start of this 18 months? What percent of perfect would you say he was at for the above statement? Was there ever any injuries or set back you had to deal with or did you have 18 straight months to work on this?
Tully, in “83.. jumped 18-3?? But did win pan am.. in 1979.. he won the World Cup over Volkov with a 17-10 in Montréal, I was there but wasn’t his coach.. don’t think we had officially meet. I had attended the Junior Champs when he and Earl jumped in Gainesville in 73..74?? Technically and speed wise his last two steps were long-longer (6-10 to 7-2) his “MID” was 54.. changing this was the first focus….
Tully had “given up” after the 1980 Carter fiasco… he played tennis for a while, Long Beach Open Doubles champion.. was very out of shape, way over 200 lbs.. in ‘83 Earl or Mike had never gripped 16 feet.. Mike jumped a WR 18-8 in the late 70’s that didn’t count because of a “dislodged bar” by the official without gripping 16 feet. We literally revamped his training to get him in the best physical shape of his life.. we trained for 6 months like an 18 year old.. speed, strength, agility, mobility.. much like decathlon training.. he really got strong and fast and reasonably good with the approach run by November/December of 83.. BUT his weight was still way up.. After Christmas we/he got serious with the diet… then the pieces started to come together.
By the way he wasn’t “sponsored” at this time.. but fortunately he wasn’t paying me, so he didn’t have that expense..
As far as help??!!.. Even in early ’84 he was “removed” from the Pepsi meet because he ask for an appearance fee like Bell and a couple more were getting.. He was local, a draw and UCLA was our training pit. Without telling us the meet promoter told the paper that Mike had “with drawn”.. that came out the morning of the meet.. we were still ready to compete and would have if THEY had not have “withdrawn” him..
So what I did was ask Joe Douglas/Santa Monica TC, if we could set up a “worldclass” competition the next weekend at an “all comers” meet Joe had at UCLA.. he said sure.. so I asked anyone that was at Pepsi if they wanted to stay over the week and compete the next Saturday.. some did.. Mike Jumped 18-11, new American out door record. I have film of that meet.. and used it to help “correct” some areas leading up to the Trials and Games.
I think Mike got something from Nike at that point or actually his PCC club??!! Maybe, maybe not.. I know it was very little. What we did do with the help of Petranoff and Bill Webb was get Mike added on the potential Olympic “athlete” work program at Anheiser Busch in the Valley. He worked 4 hours a day for 8 hours pay.
Sorry you ask about TAC/USATF.. and I probably should not respond here… but no they didn’t help us… they actually got in the way.. and this was with the trials CHAMPION with a new trial record.
First recent USATF.. I was in touch in December, 2009 concerning high performance, development and prep for LONDON. Again in January 2010, just two months ago, I made contact to follow up. I was told that what I was asking about would be decided in early February with follow up soon after that. February came and went.. I sent an email march 20!!! NO RESPONSE..
EEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRR….. why is it that the governing body of track and field can NEVER get it right.., same reasons I was given in 1976 in Indianapolis… first they will not hire or put people in position that will actually say NO to idiot thoughts, or step outside the box and do what’s right instead of what’s popular. I guess if you don’t do what popular you lose you position real quick…….. if they do hire them they (I doubt they let Brooks or Bubba/2008 Olympic head coach do things there way) don’t let them do the job correctly. I think they are actually afraid if someone comes in and does a great job it will “reflect” badly on the one that tried to do it before them and didn’t succeed. Second is ego’s and third USATF is a “want’a-be” popularity system. Kochel and I found that out when we did the vault development in the early 80’s.. Because Kochel would not take NO for an answer we got some things done in 84 but with “O” help from TAC>> you win USATF.. I lose and give up. AND this is not a ME, ME, ME.. as a coach. The “system” has done and has continued to do the same with NUMERIOUS good coaches. Actually there is a large number of coaches that are, again.. because this is not a new concept.. several times in my 40 year career we (“rough” coaches.. ; )).. have looked at forming their own “association” with the true Olympic Athlete builders ONLY. Then where there is a meet.. so when there was a quality meet the “Rough Coaches Association” could call the shots and enter there athlete or not… I here this could possible be in the works again!!! For me personally, and not because I’m to old or not capable of producing Olympians, I have so many things I love to do, graphic design, inventing, archeology, fishing, golf…more..more..more… that I can spend the rest of my life and never go near a track again unless it was in passing.
Back to ’84 with ? Tully.. Our prep got better and better toward the games we had laid out a plan that would let us “push” but not get hurt. I became real creative because Mike would “attack” everything to “change it today”…
The reason I EEEEEERRRR ‘ed USATF/TAC is this “behavior”, the names have been changed to “protect’ the guilty, don’t seem to change. Human behavior is a real ?? we see that even on here when all we are looking for is the “truth’ and how to improve ourselves.
Kochel and I put together a plan that got the top vaulters together for “practice” in the LA stadium.. and it gave them a chance to “posture’ and ‘cock’ fight.. If managed correctly this will and can make them all better. It didn’t just help Earl and Mike it helped them all, the ones that could handle it and learn from it. We had to present an “Olympic” scenario to teach them to focus under pressure, attack but with control. It worked well.. better for Mike, Earl and Lytle of course.
Trials were over Tully was champion. We went back to “what got us there” and tried to follow the same pattern we had used for the same number of days leading up to the Trials.
Then USATF?TAC got in the way. First suddenly UCLA was closed to us, prep for the Games!!! We came to the track for a scheduled session. Track closed!!! We headed for Mt sac.. we needed to keep to our schedule.. closed.. we headed to Asusa.. closed.. finally, remember LA freeway… we got to Irvine.. ok session even thought we had been in the car for 4 hours.. it took us 12 hours.. for Mike to get back home.. 9am to 9pm.. and what did TAC tell us to do.. Go to Santa Barbara and train until UCLA was open. Mike works.. I work.. they could care less.
We got it done anyway… Finally UCLA opened back up. They told all the personal coaches they would get credentials to go with their athletes.. did I get one.. NO.. the assigned Olympic jumps coach got one!!! Mike tried, I tried.. NO..
I got my own credential.. I did have athletes I had coached or help their coach coach from other countries.. Got my credential.. went with Mike to UCLA.. when we got to the pit the “assigned” coach was there.. Mike walked over to him and asked him to “stand right over here and watch, only”. That was the day he almost cleared 19-5 5 times.. he always jumped 6” to a foot in meets if the wind was ok and we had the poles needed. TAC wouldn’t/couldn’t even tell us where the pits would be for the final!!! I got my own credentials and was in the stadium 14 days with access to every corner of the facilty. I brought Mikes poles because we had seen to many times poles are missing or damaged when out of sight for a second..
Let me get off my stump.. Individual athletes and individual coaches create Medalist. Our “system” has NOTHING to do with it. You can take that to the bank. I have never needed to be a “staff” coach for anything, any meet. I actually prefer not to be..USA staff puts you in a box.. and in the 80’s you had no access to the athlete or the track.. I have even been “carded” for coaching my athlete during the competition… If I have the Medalist I will be at the Games or World Championship. I was in the stadium and all the facilities in Berlin even without an athlete there.
Remember.. Individual athletes and individual coaches win medals.. That is the number one thing that associations don’t get.. and one of the reasons that you don’t have those great coaches and athletes on this board is they are treated with tremendous disrespect, USATF many times does the same thing.. Human behavior!!! Funny thing but it is not funny. The number one thing a great coach or great athlete should get is a little respect. I don’t coach for respect and wasn’t an athlete for respect.. but none of the athletes and coaches I know that have reached or help an athlete reach levels that are the top 10 in the world or even their own country should not be ‘sniveled” at by those that couldn’t even carry their poles to the track much less pick one up and carry it down the runway gripping upwards of 16 feet.
So.. I’m going to post some more numbers.. I’m putting them together after I post this…
Sorry to get of the subject.. but you did ask…
By the way the numbers I posted on the other thread were about the plant/takeoff.. here I’m expanding them.. because we, for cause and effect reasons haqve to look at the “big’ picture. Even environment, financial and coaching input.
a quick PS... if you wonder how i can be in a "credentialed" stadium or function.. i'm not majic or "powerful.. i actually have a fun energtic simple approach..
but.. here's the but.. If you are in this game "for the athlete", other coaches that are "in it for the athlete" will open their doors. if you are in it for yourself.. stay home.