PVDaddy wrote: ... Perhaps I need to be enlightened what exactly constitutes a Pull from a Push? A Pull to me would be just that, pulling the pole toward myself. A push to me would be, Pushing the pole away from myself.
Yeh ... that's about it!
PVDaddy wrote: ... I believe that a Lat pull beging with the right from an elastic position because the shoulder has been stretched at this point and Immediately enhanced by the left lat would assist in accelerating the swing. I cannot see where a push at this point would help, but only hurt the swing?
... Heck, it sound like I don't even know the difference from a Pull or a Push!
Daddy, I appreciate your humbleness re all this. And don't be too hard on yourself for being confused between the pull and push. And the way you stated it here, I really think that you're very close to conventional wisdom about all this.
Push and pull both infer some pressure being exerted by the bottom arm, but in what direction? Generally, a straight push is in a forwards/upwards direction at approximately right angles to the longitudinal axis of the pole. A straight pull is also at right angles to the pull, but this time it's in the opposite direction - in a backwards/downwards direction.
But what if the pull or push is NOT at right angles to the pole. What's it called then? Well, what Agapit referred to as a pull in his PV Manifesto turned out to be a pull in the direction of the butt of the pole - pretty much halfway between a straight push and a straight pull. We clarified that kind of a pull as being a "lat pull", since it's your lats (latissimus dorsi muscles) that let you pull in that direction immediately after takeoff. Since you referred to the "lat pull" above, I think you understand this.
Tom's right about the lack of clarity in our PV lexicon, but I think if we can at least agree to these basic pull/push directions and refer to them consistently by name, then there will be less confusion.