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double leg swing

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:50 pm
by txpolevaulter_k25
i was watching some videos of me and at the biggining of last year i used to have a nice trail leg position and takeoff but this year i noticed that i almost never have a straight trail leg for very long and i just go straight to verticle is that what double leg swing is?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:23 pm
by jcoover
usually a double leg swing refers to a dropped drive knee directly after the takeoff.... like this:

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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:51 pm
by txpolevaulter_k25
ok that is what i have then lol, what advantages do you have with a single leg swing or does it really not matter, because i jump higher without a trail leg

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:53 pm
by nitro
i think its harder to make it into the pit so you will actually be on smaller poles then u are capable of and it puts more pressure on your back for back problems

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:56 pm
by txpolevaulter_k25
i dont know about the not as deep into the pit thing because i always land deep or right in the middle of the pit, but the back part you are right about but that might also be because i squat 370 and i am sure that puts alot of stress on my back lol,

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:20 pm
by ipolevault
nitro is talking about the double leg swing, not your lack of trail leg. also, squatting 370 is a different kind of stress than the stress put on your back from too much of a dobule leg swing (i.e. spine compression, "awkward arch" on the double leg swing)

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:28 pm
by txpolevaulter_k25
ipolevault wrote:nitro is talking about the double leg swing, not your lack of trail leg. also, squatting 370 is a different kind of stress than the stress put on your back from too much of a dobule leg swing (i.e. spine compression, "awkward arch" on the double leg swing)


what do you mean lack of trail leg? because i look like that picture

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:59 pm
by theczar
it depends on the vaulter...for the majority of vaulters, a dropped drive knee spells dissaster. But, some do the double-leg swing and do it quite well...personally I would never recommend or teach this meathod because it can cause bad habbits.

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 10:03 pm
by txpolevaulter_k25
i dont know i guess i just make up for it on top pf the pole because that is where i have my best form, i wish i had good takeoff form so i could go from 13 to maybe 14 and up but i still have 2 years of high school to straighten things out

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:56 pm
by vault3rb0y
If you arent far in your progression (less than a 16ft jumper) its a better idea to follow the normal method. Theres a difference between following a model because its best suited for you and your abilities, and picking a model because you dont want to change the way you jump. If i were you, i would just work on my take off and make sure my knee goes up. When you jump 17+ then you can decide whether you want to stop using your drive knee or not, and i bet you will have a different answer by then ;).

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:49 pm
by gtc
nitro wrote:i think its harder to make it into the pit so you will actually be on smaller poles then u are capable of and it puts more pressure on your back for back problems


Actually just the opposite is true!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:47 pm
by ipolevault
txpolevaulter_k25 wrote:
ipolevault wrote:nitro is talking about the double leg swing, not your lack of trail leg. also, squatting 370 is a different kind of stress than the stress put on your back from too much of a dobule leg swing (i.e. spine compression, "awkward arch" on the double leg swing)


what do you mean lack of trail leg? because i look like that picture


ah, sorry, I meant the opposite, theres a lot of trail leg, which looks like it will put a lot of pressure on the back as well.