quick pole progression question

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quick pole progression question

Unread postby Hickman » Tue Mar 29, 2011 1:19 am

if you're using 11-6 120lbs, clearing 10-6 in getting deep penetration and the pit. Is a better pole progression at 11-6 130 lbs, or a 12 130lbs? also is it true that the flex rating for 12 130 is the same as 11-6 120

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Re: quick pole progression question

Unread postby rainbowgirl28 » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:29 am

Hickman wrote:if you're using 11-6 120lbs, clearing 10-6 in getting deep penetration and the pit. Is a better pole progression at 11-6 130 lbs, or a 12 130lbs? also is it true that the flex rating for 12 130 is the same as 11-6 120


Male or female athlete? How high are they holding on the pole? How much are they bending the pole?

If you have an 11'6 130 and a 12'130, there's no reason to not try the 11'6 130 first. It's always better to do more gradual progressions at first.

Check out this chart: http://www.skyjumpers.com/articles/pvpr ... table.html

You have it backwards... a 12'130 is going to be approximately like an 11'6 140... so roughly 20 pounds stiffer.

What brands are these poles? The shorter poles tend to have a bit more variation between brands.

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Re: quick pole progression question

Unread postby dj » Tue Mar 29, 2011 5:29 am

Hey

First in the USA high schools a vaulter has to use poles over their weight… i agree with this totally .. (the only exception is when the schools head coach, who is a sprint coach, buys one pole, a 15 foot 190, so all his pole vaulters can use it.... holding 12 feet on this polke makes it a telphone pole for even a 190 pound vaulter)

Second I feel it's best to hold 12 to 6 inches from the top of a pole, or to the band in America by rule...( on poles that are made with symmetrical patterns)…

Rule one. The grip height on any pole should be so that you can "peak" your vault with the standards at, minimum!! 20"(50cm) to 24"(60cm)….

Rule two. If the pole bends very little and you penetrate "deep'.. start raising your grip.

Rule three. If the pole bends very little and you do not penetrate… lower your grip OR go to a smaller/shorter pole if it is not under your weight.

Rule four. If the pole bends big! AND you penetrate deep… go to a bigger pole with the same grip.

Rule five. If the pole bends very big! AND you do not penetrate!!! (landing on the front pad or the ground, or on you’re a$$ or head) MOVE YOUR GRIP DOWN!!!!!

Rule six. Follow rules one through five…………..

quick pole progression question
by Hickman » Tue Mar 29, 2011 12:19 am
if you're using 11-6 120lbs, clearing 10-6 in getting deep penetration and the pit. Is a better pole progression at 11-6 130 lbs, or a 12 130lbs? also is it true that the flex rating for 12 130 is the same as 11-6 120


A 10-6 vault, based on the Six Step "MID" Chart, needs an average grip of 11-5…

If you are gripping a little lower than that, you are vaulting reasonably efficient.

The short answer is a longer pole……..

A longer answer is: To jump 11-6 you need a grip of 12 feet, on average. So I would get a pole (based on weight and manufacture band position) that you can potentially grip 12 feet…

You can check pole and grip issues by referring to the "MID" chart in the future… the grip to jump height averages where documented going all the way back to steel vaulting and have held "true" for 40 years… steel or fiberglass....


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Re: quick pole progression question

Unread postby LHSpolevault » Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:22 am

DJ,

do you base the grip height on when the pole is planted in the box? Or just in relation to the plug on level ground?

i.e - Holding at 12'0" on the pole.. but with the 8" drop in the box it would become 11'4"

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Re: quick pole progression question

Unread postby dj » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:06 pm

hye

the plug...

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