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ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 12:57 pm
by Split
So its pouring right now, and Im not allowed to go running. I wanna do something that has the same effect as a hill workout, but indoors. Is there anything I could do?
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:27 pm
by dj
hey
do you have a place to pull a sled???
25 kilo... pull 40/50 meters down and back... then run 50 meters without the sled.. down and back...
we normally do 3/4 sets... sometimes we pick up the pole with or without the sled.. use lighter weight if you pull the sled with the pole carry...
dj
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 3:10 pm
by rainbowgirl28
Stairs?
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 7:08 pm
by VTechVaulter
dj wrote:hey
do you have a place to pull a sled???
25 kilo... pull 40/50 meters down and back... then run 50 meters without the sled.. down and back...
we normally do 3/4 sets... sometimes we pick up the pole with or without the sled.. use lighter weight if you pull the sled with the pole carry...
dj
25 kilos??? why so much. wouldn't it be more effecting and less pounding on your body to do about 35 lbs and keep the speed faster and the technique better?
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 15, 2008 9:00 pm
by KirkB
For the metric challenged - like me ...
25 kilos = 55.1 lbs
35 lbs = 15.9 kilos
At least I know that 50 metres is roughly 55 yards.

Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:31 am
by dj
hey
actually it should be 25 lbs... i just got lost in my new world of meters and not lbs..
i think i posted a 6 week "sprint' program that lowered the weight each week so the speed could be faster.. 25-20-15-10-5-0
it was a replacement workout to Jim Bush's hill workout at UCLA....
dj
pull "tires" if you don't have a sled...
ps.. Hartwig!
the sled forces you to run correctly... if you have the correct weight..
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 12:59 am
by VTechVaulter
that sounds more like it. ive been doing all mine with a 25lb weight and i guess the sled itself weights 5-10 lbs. I really like it, it def forces more correct technique on you!
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:47 pm
by Split
I actually have a sled and weights I can use. Thanks guys!

Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2008 6:50 pm
by Lax PV
We did some testing on sled pulls. I like them a lot, but I feel like coaches end up putting way too much weight on the sled to be productive the way that it should be. We did some timing analysis and found that most of the guys (college age ranging from 15' to 17' 6" vaulters) really should only pull the sled itself (as it weighs 10kg). Based on numbers from various sources as to how much the resistance should infact slow you down (between 5 and 10%), the sled alone was enough weight to slow the guys' top speed down by almost 10 percent!
Sleds good.. lots of weight... not so good (my thought anyway...)
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:23 am
by dj
good morning
a lot of weight is not good... i suggest you do the 6 week program... each week "losing" 5 lbs.. do the sled 50 meters down and back without the pole and the down and back without the sled, with the pole..
you will be surprised how much better you will run even on the runway..
dj
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 6:22 am
by golfdane
A good alternative to a sledge, is a tire (no rim). We have a selection of 13-16". The length of the attached rope have a slight effect on the resistance (short rope means less friction). We use a pair of bicycle tubes as a harness (crossed over the chest), instead of a belt, to avoid leaning over from the waist up.
We also carry the tire overhead while doing lunges or high knees (walking) on the way back. Great for core stability.
Re: ALternate to Hill Running?
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 7:06 pm
by xjoeyx
golfdane wrote:A good alternative to a sledge, is a tire (no rim). We have a selection of 13-16". The length of the attached rope have a slight effect on the resistance (short rope means less friction). We use a pair of bicycle tubes as a harness (crossed over the chest), instead of a belt, to avoid leaning over from the waist up.
We also carry the tire overhead while doing lunges or high knees (walking) on the way back. Great for core stability.
i like the idea of carrying the tire over head for lunges.. i'm going to have to try that