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Steiner WL, 4.63 and Johnson 14-9
Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:00 pm
by VaultLove
Westwood- Chelsea Johnson increased her win streak to three in a row, while winning today at the Rafer Johnson/JJK Invite. Previous victories were Cal-Poly and last week's Texas Relays. The NCAA record holder increased her outdoor season best to 4.50 (14 feet 9in.) Other highlights were UCLA Bruin, Laef Barnes recording a 3:59.96 mile and Tyree Washington winning the 400 meters today in 45.79.
Women Pole Vault Invite
UCLA Rafer Johnson/Jackie Joyner-Kersee Invite 4/12/2008
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1 Johnson, Chelsea Nike 4.50m 14-09.00
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01 4.11 4.21 4.31 4.50 4.63
PPP PPP PPP PPP PPP PPP O O XXX
2 Sakowski, Melissa Unattached 4.21m 13-09.75
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01 4.11 4.21 4.31
PPP PPP PPP O O O XXX
3 Anthony, Tori UCLA J4.21m 13-09.75
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01 4.11 4.21 4.31
PPP O O O XO XXO XXX
4 Viuf, Katy UCLA 4.01m 13-01.75
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01 4.11
O O O O XXX
5 Bernhard, Brittani Unattached J4.01m 13-01.75
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01 4.11
PPP PPP XO XO XXX
6 Kantola, Ingrid UCLA J4.01m 13-01.75
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01 4.11
PPP XO XO O XXX
7 Quinn, Krystal Cal St. Northrid 3.86m 12-08.00
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01
PPP PPP XO XXX
7 Pena, Tori UCLA 3.86m 12-08.00
3.56 3.71 3.86 4.01
O O XO XXX
Steiner, WL, 4.63
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:21 am
by VaultLove
NORMAN, Okla. -
April Steiner, competing unattached, recorded the top pole vault mark in the world so far this year, clearing a height of 15 feet and 5.25 inches (4.63 meters). Mike Robertson, competing for Nike, set a meet record in the men's discus with a throw of 212-2 (64.66).
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:23 am
by BethelPV
4.63 meters is 15-2... but anyways, this post was about Chelsey! Make a seperate post for April! Congrats to both by the way! I can't wait to see how high they are jumping a month from now!!
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:12 am
by achtungpv
At the TX Relays, Chelsea had one warmup jump that was probably in the 15'6" range. She looked pretty dang impressive and ready to jump well above 4.60.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 5:46 pm
by Vaultref
BethelPV wrote:4.63 meters is 15-2... but anyways, this post was about Chelsey! Make a separate post for April! Congrats to both by the way! I can't wait to see how high they are jumping a month from now!!
Actually, the topic of the post was for both vaulters. Nice jumps regardless
by these two outstanding vaulters.
Where did you come up with 15'-2" as the imperial measure for 4.63??
My "Big Gold Book" shows 4.63 is 15'-2.25".. I doubt this book is wrong. We (officials) have been using it for years.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 8:36 pm
by achtungpv
Vaultref wrote:Where did you come up with 15'-2" as the imperial measure for 4.63??
My "Big Gold Book" shows 4.63 is 15'-2.25".. I doubt this book is wrong. We (officials) have been using it for years.
When you measure imperially, do you round down a cm when converting to metric? For example if you measure an imperially to hit 19'0 1/4" the metric conversion would be 5.79, however, if you measured it metrically as 5.80 then it would convert to 19'0 1/4". A ref told me this once but I've always had doubts about that.
OR, on the T&F News message board a few years ago, someone stated that in the conversion book that 5.80 vertically converts to 19'0 1/4" but if you measure it horizontally it's 19'0 1/2". I have no idea why.
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:10 pm
by Vaultref
When I measure for collegiate or elite heights, the measuring device or laser is set to metric. I go to the T&F News "gold book" to get any imperial value conversion if requested.
I am aware of the difference you point out as some time ago I was puzzled as to why there was a separate set of tables for the vertical jumps and the horizontal jumps in back then the "little red" book, "little blue" book, "little gold" book, "Big Red" book, "Big Green" book and of course todays "Big Gold" book.
An explanation was in a topic called the Introduction to the tables in the front of these books. It's is known as the statisticians' challenge.
One thing the book says, is the tables are designed to convert from metric to the imperial system. I follow that and never try to convert the other way using this book. If I measure in imperial as I do for high school (NFHS) meets, I'll not state a metric equivalent to anyone.
Metric
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:29 pm
by dougb
There are 2.54 centimeters in one imperial inch exactly.
The direction does not matter.
Memorize it.

Re: Metric
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 4:20 am
by rainbowgirl28
dougb wrote:There are 2.54 centimeters in one imperial inch exactly.
The direction does not matter.
Memorize it.

It actually does for track and field. I believe what is listed in the Big book of whatever color is what the IAAF uses. You can see an example of this here:
http://www.usatf.org/statistics/calcula ... nversions/ if you type 5.80 for the pole vault and then for the long jump.
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:59 am
by dougb
5.8 m = 228.34645.... inches = 19' 0.346..."
The program on the USATF web page is challenged when rounding.
There will be a test on Friday.

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:21 am
by BethelPV
Vaultref,
I knew that 4.63 was 15-2 and some change, but i just figured that the .25 was not necessary when all i was saying was the article was way off by giving the translation of 4.63 as 15-5.25, which is a whole three inches off and a huge difference when it comes to the pole vault.
I also have a nice little conversion book that I use when i need it, but i generally have most of the heights remembered from personal use anywhere between 4.30 and 6.00 meters... i guess it was just a case of me being lazy and not typing the .25 after i put 15-2...
Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:21 am
by rainbowgirl28
dougb wrote:5.8 m = 228.34645.... inches = 19' 0.346..."
The program on the USATF web page is challenged when rounding.
There will be a test on Friday.

But that is how track and field works. It doesn't matter what is mathematically accurate.