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				20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Sun May 04, 2014 10:52 pm
				by PV2020
				There may actually be more, but that is all I could find of the athletes that are currently ranked in the top 50 right now (14 have jumped it this outdoor season). There may be red-shirted athletes or injured athletes that have not jumped this year. 
Some people have posted on PVP that the college coaches are not holding their own given the facilities they have to work with. I would argue that is not true. Not all of these athletes are US Citizens, but most are. The problem with US pole vaulting is not lack of college coaches, it is the lack of elite coaches and elite training groups with these coaches. 
These college athletes have it better than 99.9% of professionals, but they are still young and developing. When they get to the age they should start to peak they lose their training centers, their poles, their coaches, and their athletic trainers. College pole vault coaches (that are not volunteers) get paid. Not always the best. Sometimes just enough to live off of, if that, but if you are an assistant at a BCS school it may be 50K or more a year, and if you are the head coach it may be well into the six figures. There is no intensive for these top coaches to coach elites. Occasionally you can let an elite use the facilities or travel as a volunteer coach, but they still do not get the same attention they would as a college athlete, and they still have to make their own money too. 
Out of these 20 or more athletes that jump 5.50, maybe 1 will make enough money from pole vault to not need a job right out of college. And odds are, the #1 college vaulter does not have the biggest upside. If #15 actually has the most potential, but he never gets a chance to jump after college, then the USA vaulters will never be as good as they could be.
			 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 1:51 pm
				by jcoover
				Nailed it.  We post collegians for the most part don't and shouldn't complain, as we've chosen to do this and most of us enjoy the hell out of it, but you've nailed the problem with the system.  
As a post collegiate athlete, your jumping high benefits nobody but yourself.  The meets can always find another guy to jump, and your coach likely makes $0 from you having a high SB or world ranking.  
Of the 16 or so guys that jumped at last year's outdoor USA's, there weren't two that train at the same track.  That will change just a bit this year, but will remain consistent with the post collegians.
			 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Mon May 05, 2014 2:03 pm
				by rainbowgirl28
				Can you make a list for us? 

 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 12:30 am
				by jcoover
				1	Brad Walker - Phoenix, AZ (pfaff)
 
2	Jeremy Scott - Jonesboro, AR (bell)
 
3	Jack Whitt - Tulsa, Oklahoma (dial)
 
4	Jeffrey Coover - Cedar Falls, IA (pauli)
 
5	Dustin DeLeo - Costa Mesa, CA (woepse)
6	Andrew Irwin - Fayetteville, AR (case)
7	Victor Weirich - Provo, UT
 	 
8	Sam Kendricks - Oxford, Mississippi (kendricks)
 	 
9	Mark Hollis - Knoxville, TN (mack)
	 
10	Jordan Scott - Lawrence, KS (hayes)
 	 	 
NH	Nick Mossberg - Phoenix, AZ (starkey), now Tuscon (blockburger)
 	 	 	 
NH	Nikita Kirillov - Atlanta, GA (kirillov)
 	 	 
NH	John Prader - San Luis Obisbo, CA (ashcroft)
	 	 	 
NH	Logan Cunningham - San Marcos TX
 	 	 
NH	Jake Winder - Naperville, IL (winder)
 	 	 
NH	Sean Young - Tampa, FL (marsh)
			 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 1:20 am
				by PV2020
				1	Kendricks, Sam	 JR-3	Mississippi	19' 0.75"	5.81m	2013 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	3/27/2013
2	Barber, Shawn	 SO-2	Akron	18' 10.25"	5.75m	NCAA Division I Indoor Track & Field Championships	 03/14/14
3	Irwin, Andrew	 JR-3	Arkansas	18' 9.25"	5.72m	SEC Outdoor Track & Field Championship	 05/10/12
4	Ross, Colton	 SR-4	Stephen F. Austin	18' 8.25"	5.70m	Longhorn Invitational	 05/03/14
5	Woepse, Michael	 SR-4	UCLA	18' 5.25"	5.62m	UCLA vs USC	 05/04/14
6	Blankenship, Jake	 SO-2	Tennessee	18' 4.75"	5.61m	2013 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	3/27/2013
7	Geraghty, Peter	 SR-4	Eastern Illinois	18' 2.75"	5.56m	EIU Tuesday Tweener	 04/22/14
8	Cato, Japheth	SR-4	Wisconsin	18' 2.5"	5.55m	Tyson Invitational	2/14/2014
9	Pujats, Pauls	 JR-3	Memphis	18' 2"	5.54m	Memphis Invitational	 03/29/14
10	Siegmeier, Zach	 SR-4	Minnesota	18' 1"	5.51m	Musco Invitational	 05/03/14
11	Watson, Reese	 SO-2	Texas	18' 1"	5.51m	Texas Invitational	 04/12/14
12	Babits, Max	SR-4	Eastern Michigan	18' 1"	5.51m	Hillsdale Tune-Up	2/22/2014
13	Uhle, Joey	JR-3	Air Force	18' 1"	5.51m	2013 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	3/27/2013
14	Wait, Kyle	SR-4	Kansas State	18' 1"	5.51m	2013 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	3/27/2013
15	Bowen, Casey	 JR-3	Kansas	18' 0.5"	5.50m	2014 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	 03/26/14
16	Pillow, Chris	 JR-3	Rice	18' 0.5"	5.50m	2014 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	 03/26/14
17	Viken, Michael	 SR-4	Eastern Illinois	18' 0.5"	5.50m	2014 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	 03/26/14
18	Wolfle, Chase	 SO-2	Texas A&M	18' 0.5"	5.50m	2014 Clyde Littlefield Texas Relays	 03/26/14
19	Hinch, Derick	SR-4	Arizona State	18' 0.5"	5.50m	NCAA Division I Indoor Championships	3/8/2013
20	Thoirs, Jax	SO-2	Washington	18' 0.5"	5.50m	New Mexico Classic	2/7/2014
21	Munz, Stephan	SR-4	Virginia Tech	17' 10.5"	5.45m	ACC Outdoor Track & Field Championships	4/17/2014
22	Kirillov, Nikita	JR-3	Georgia Tech	17' 10.5"	5.45m	Georgia Tech Yellow Jacket Invitational	3/30/2012
23	Laidig, Torben	FR-1	Virginia Tech	17' 10.5"	5.45m	NCAA Division I Indoor Track & Field Championships	3/14/2014
24	McCune, Alex	JR-3	Akron	17' 10.5"	5.45m	NCAA Division I Indoor Championships	3/14/2014
25	Dangel, Josh	SR-4	Cincinnati	17' 10.25"	5.44m	All-Ohio Track & Field Champs	4/12/2014
26	Juilfs, JJ	JR-3	Washington	17' 10.25"	5.44m	Pac-12 Championships	5/12/2012
27	Brannon, Chase	SR-4	Tennessee	17' 9.25"	5.43m	Virginia Tech Challenge	2/21/2014
28	Arnold, Seth	JR-3	Texas State	17' 9"	5.42m	Texas A&M Invitational	2/14/2014
29	Duplantis, Andreas	JR-3	LSU	17' 9"	5.42m	SEC Indoor Track & Field Championships	2/22/2013
30	Meyers, Kyal	SR-4	Texas Tech	17' 8.75"	5.41m	Tyson Invitational	2/8/2013
31	Lazas, Kevin	SR-4	Arkansas	17' 8.75"	5.41m	Tyson Invitational	2/8/2013
32	Cahoy, Steven	FR-1	Nebraska	17' 8.5"	5.40m	2014 Drake Relays presented by Hy-Vee	4/23/2014
33	Uhle, Chris	JR-3	Virginia Tech	17' 8.5"	5.40m	Winston-Salem Street Vault	7/13/2013
			 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 9:23 pm
				by KYLE ELLIS
				I think Krillov jumped 5.54 at Junior nationals or some meet in the summer.
"At the 2012 United States Junior Outdoor Track and Field Championships, set a new personal record, school record and US Junior meet record en route to a first place finish in the pole vault with a leap of 5.54m (18-2)."
			 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Tue May 06, 2014 10:39 pm
				by PV2020
				KYLE ELLIS wrote:I think Krillov jumped 5.54 at Junior nationals or some meet in the summer.
"At the 2012 United States Junior Outdoor Track and Field Championships, set a new personal record, school record and US Junior meet record en route to a first place finish in the pole vault with a leap of 5.54m (18-2)."
Yeah, that was the year that 3 Americans made the finals. The 2 born in the USA were representing other nations (Barber and Duplantis) while the one in the USA kit was born over seas (Krillov). I am not complaining that Krillov was jumping for America, just thought the situation was funny.
 
			
					
				Re: 20 NCAA Men Have PR's of 5.50+
				Posted: Wed May 07, 2014 11:48 am
				by KYLE ELLIS
				So would that make it 21? I think 15 of those are from the west region. That makes it scary going into regionals knowing there are 15 guys over 5.50, and top 12 advance.