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by Divalent
Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:58 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: "Pole Chart" help
Replies: 2
Views: 13633

Re: "Pole Chart" help

... Does this mean these poles are equivalent if you simple move your grip from where you were holding on the 12' pole to the same spot on the longer poles? Example - You are holding at 11'6" on the 12' foot pole so to be equivalent you would hold at 11'6" on the 13' pole. Yes, this. Hold...
by Divalent
Tue Mar 31, 2015 9:22 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - College
Topic: D-1 Outdoor best PV height histogram, by sex
Replies: 6
Views: 16196

Re: D-1 Outdoor best PV height histogram, by sex

... In addition to the men's spike at 5.20m, I noticed a spike for women's at ~4.20m too. Kirk I think the spikeyness is mostly an artifact of sorts due to commom progression intervals, as it is particularly noticable in the "average" section of the womens histogram. Here is the unsmoothe...
by Divalent
Tue Mar 31, 2015 12:48 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - College
Topic: D-1 Outdoor best PV height histogram, by sex
Replies: 6
Views: 16196

Re: D-1 Outdoor best PV height histogram, by sex

... Do you think it would work better as a summed graph? I think it's a little weird where the graph dips down around 17' or so and then spikes up again. Clearly anyone who has jumped 17'6 has the capability to jump 17', and so I think that if a data point counted for its own height as well as ever...
by Divalent
Mon Mar 30, 2015 11:18 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - College
Topic: D-1 Outdoor best PV height histogram, by sex
Replies: 6
Views: 16196

D-1 Outdoor best PV height histogram, by sex

[Edited to add: I did redid with whole country (not just east regional) and I did change the permissions so that everyone should be able to see. So the link below is to the new copy. Let me know if you have trouble accessing.] I think you might find this interesting. From the TFRRS website I copied ...
by Divalent
Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:35 am
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: Change jump order near end of competition?
Replies: 14
Views: 27102

Re: Change jump order near end of competition?

1. At each height, it gives the " passing advantage " to the current leader of the meet, rather than the higher-seeded vaulters; and ... Well, not really. If you consider a pass as equal to a make, then wouldn't a passer be considered ahead of someone who cleared the last height on their ...
by Divalent
Tue Mar 17, 2015 11:49 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: Change jump order near end of competition?
Replies: 14
Views: 27102

Re: Change jump order near end of competition?

I don't see why the leader's clearance is meaningless. If the higher-seeded vaulter passes at this height, then fails 3 times at a higher height, the leader's clearance is the winning clearance! It only makes a difference to the mark assigned to the win. If the higher seed passes and then goes XXX ...
by Divalent
Tue Mar 17, 2015 6:19 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: Change jump order near end of competition?
Replies: 14
Views: 27102

Re: Change jump order near end of competition?

Well, the psychological aspect of jump order can cut both ways, but in any event, besides being unavoidable (someone has to go first), it is a much smaller issue of fairness compared to the one I think we should be focused on. And so I'd rather a solution that solves the big thing in a simple, easy-...
by Divalent
Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:31 am
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: Change jump order near end of competition?
Replies: 14
Views: 27102

Re: Change jump order near end of competition?

I think this is a good alternative to explore. But I'm not so sure it would be simpler (or fairer). Okay, lets keep exploring this alternative then. There has got be a simple solution that eliminates the advantage (or, if anyone has the advantage, we at least give it to the person leading in the co...
by Divalent
Mon Mar 16, 2015 12:14 am
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: Change jump order near end of competition?
Replies: 14
Views: 27102

Re: Change jump order near end of competition?

If the rule book authors do decide to allow reseeding during a continuous competition, how many times? Do we want to reseed for every height after whatever point the reseeding is allowed to start? Once again, speaking as an official, you don't really want to give us any more opportunities for mista...
by Divalent
Thu Mar 12, 2015 2:13 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - General
Topic: Change jump order near end of competition?
Replies: 14
Views: 27102

Change jump order near end of competition?

Unlike other events in T&F, the PV and high jump seem to keep the same jump order throughout the competition. And the initial jump order is based on "worse to best" order of their best vault in a prior meet sometime in the past (sometimes, a long time ago). Other events use the initial...
by Divalent
Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:33 am
Forum: Pole Vault Safety
Topic: Let's talk about box collars!
Replies: 49
Views: 57057

Let's talk about box shape!

One of the problems with designing an effective and inexpensive box collar to minimize injury potential is that it has to deal with a "defect" inherent in the shape of the box itself: the sharp angles along sides and back top margins of the box. Those sharp angles focus the energy on any b...
by Divalent
Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:08 pm
Forum: Pole Vault - High School
Topic: CA State, Rock 16-2, Barr DQ'd for swearing
Replies: 26
Views: 11542

Re: CA State, Rock 16-2, Barr DQ'd for swearing

I am completely offended by profanity. However, I am also a hardcore individualist. ... Personally, I'm not offended by hearing profanity (spontaneously uttered, directed to no one), but I know that some other people may be, and don't think my sensibilities should be the standard. And I also don't ...

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